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Crypto Question

Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:02 am
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5114 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:02 am
With Canada telling all Canadian regulated financial institutions to halt transactions of 34 Crypto Wallets, does this prevent those wallets from making transactions with businesses?

Can that crypto be transferred to someone else bypassing financial institutions?
I've not made transactions in Crypto but just made investments into crypto. So I'm a little ignorant on it.

Also who do you like for wallets?
Posted by NCAAFootballGenius
Member since Nov 2006
323 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:28 am to
With Bitcoin that can’t happen, but most other crypto the developers have admin keys and can freeze your wallet.

There was an example of $100M of a USD pegged stable coin called teather that was frozen recently.


What can happen with Bitcoin is that if they know which wallet is yours they can track the movements of the coins and eventually figure out who you are and arrest you or get you when you are trying to convert to USD on an exchange.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119637 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:47 am to
Once the original wallet is identified and it is being tracked I don’t know how you could transfer those funds to other wallets that will also be traced. Maybe there is bank in the Cayman’s or Tortola that will do a transfers from digital to physical. Going non KYC from digital to physical seems like the only way to break the digital chain and will have to be done in a sovereign nation that won’t cooperate with Canada.

It is a good question and look forward to some other ideas.

quote:

Also who do you like for wallets?


I mostly use MetaMask because it works well in the defi space. I use ledger as my hard wallet.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 6:51 am
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:51 am to
We may have to go back to the old day of hiding money and staying away from the banks.

Just keep alittle money to stay off the radar in an bank account to make it look like you live pay check to pay check.

Hide the rest that cannot be tracked by big brother.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:03 am to
If you find someone willing to take funds in crypto under the table, there is nothing can be done about it. Peer to peer transactions on the Bitcoin network are out of the scope of what the government can realistically stop without some fairly extreme measures. However, if these blacklisted wallets need access to a fiat off ramp, what they would likely need to do is to transfer your funds to a non-KYC compliant exchange like CoinEx or KuCoin which you’ll need to access with a VPN and cash out there.

You could also send Bitcoin through what is called a Bitcoin tumbler (e.g Coinjoin) which breaks the transactions up into many smaller transactions and routes them through complex chains of transactions where they are mixed with other peoples coins before going to the destinations so that the waters are really murky as to who you actually sent the funds to. Kind of similar to how VPN ensures privacy for accessing websites, just with transferring money. Once the funds arrive in the destination, it’s possible they are considered entirely washed by exchanges but certainly not a guarantee.

If I found myself in the position of needing fiat and my wallet addresses were known and blacklisted by all major exchanges, I’d probably use a tumbler and keep them in cold storage just with a new address and then use a non-KYC exchange to transfer to stablecoins, transfer back to an exchange with my bank account and liquidate. Not all at once either, I’d want to see that this worked without setting off any red flags with a small amount before committing the whole thing.

Sounds like a lot but it really isn’t.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15571 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:56 am to
There is not one thing I trust technology having control over. Especially not money.

I cannot wrap my head around how Big Tech and Government could not possibly collude to take it from you.

The Internet used to be the Wild West too. You could say anything you want. The Parler debacle proved that they’ll just shut down your server. How on earth would this not happen with $$$.

Can someone please explain how Bitcoin or Crypto is possibly safer?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119637 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:09 am to
This is a good tutorial if you want to interact with the blockchain directly without a wallet frontend GUI and just interact with the blockchain explorer directly.

LINK
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