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re: When do the DEMs/Biden get serious about some Student Loan Forgiveness?

Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:24 am to
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
874 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:24 am to
Student loan forgiveness would not solve the problem, it would just kick it down the road and make it worse long term. The problem is that the government had no business being involved with loans to begin with. All this did was give universities a blank check to increase costs, add layers of useless administration, and offer degrees of negligible value. Cancelling student debt would just set the expectation that it would happen again in a decade or so and everything would get worse.

How to fix the problem?

1. Get the government out of the student loan business.

2. Banks could still offer loans but set interest rates and borrowing limits based on the expected future earnings of the degree being pursued.

3. Make universities have skin in the game by forcing them to co-sign on all loans, or even better, be the bank themselves and loan money to their own students.

4. Student loans become bankruptable with the caveat being that if you default, your degree is invalidated and the school can withhold transcripts and wipe out your grades.

Do these 4 things and you’d immediately see a vast change in how universities operate. Many majors and classes would become “cash only” as they have zero economic value. High value majors would see lower interest rates AND lower costs. Schools would have to compete with each other on price and the mountains of diversity and other useless administration would be dissolved. Fancy buildings, lazy rivers, and pointless courses like bowling would be relics as universities push to get students through as quickly and cheaply as possible so they can begin paying back the loans.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37308 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:54 am to
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Banks could still offer loans but set interest rates and borrowing limits based on the expected future earnings of the degree being pursued.


I don't know how you do this in all areas. I know plenty of attorneys who make 300K plus a year. I know plenty of attorneys who make 70K a year working on their own or working for government.

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tudent loans become bankruptable with the caveat being that if you default, your degree is invalidated and the school can withhold transcripts and wipe out your grades.


LOL, this is like when the NCAA wipes out a championship. We all saw the game, we know who won.

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The problem is that the government had no business being involved with loans to begin with.


The idea is that under traditional loan underwriting, most kids from poor families would not qualify. Yet, a good degree from a good school might be the best way to break the cycle of poverty.

Government involvement is not the problem. Kids borrowing far more than they should, for useless degrees / to not graduate is the problem.

The tool is fine but too many kids are using the tool incorrectly.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:59 am to
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Make universities have skin in the game by forcing them to co-sign on all loans, or even better, be the bank themselves and loan money to their own students.


They could even just underwrite a portion of the loan. Even if you made them responsible for 10%, it would radically change how they do business.
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