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re: Brianna Kupfer murder suspect with lengthy rap sheet was out on bail

Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:46 am to
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I said (in a post you didn't reply to)

This is extremely rich coming from you

There are plenty other examples, just in this thread, about you not replying to posts directed at you. But let’s just start at that one for now.

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that the system needs to be rational and based on data. If there is data that shows certain variables are likely to increase the chance of violating bail, then they need to be addressed with rational responses.

Are people presumed innocent until proven guilty or not? Because that’s all you cared about earlier in this thread. A quick count shows you mentioning it 4 times on the first page alone.

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The irrational-emotional "punishment" mindset needs to be dropped.

So should “the most dangerous guys” be put in jail while they are still presumed innocent or not?

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Emotional thinking is bad.

Holy. fricking. shite.

Pot calling kettle black does not even begin to describe this situation.

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The very worst would be denied bail entirely.

Why are jails a point of this discussion when the discussion is about people who are presumed innocent?

So the above statement is no longer accurate? Or you’re just in favor of “the very worst” being set completely free without even having to post bail?

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I'm not against the concept of pretrial detention.

So now you are in favor of jails entering the discussion about presumed innocent people.

Again, how much of a fricking failure can a supposed “lawyer” be?

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When you are literally incapable of forming a response, this is what you post.

x2

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"Bail is meant to ensure" only has 92k results on google If you take out the quotes? 28.9M results

Covid vaccine prevents infection has 5.7 million results on Google.

2020 election fraud has 243 million.

What else do you want to fail at today, “lawyer”?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:00 am to
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Are people presumed innocent until proven guilty or not? Because that’s all you cared about earlier in this thread.

See this is where you create strawman arguments.

Nowhere was that the ONLY thing I care about, but you make an assumption to fit your belief and then strawman it up.

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So should “the most dangerous guys” be put in jail while they are still presumed innocent or not?

I'm willing to discuss a rational system where we could work towards a definitive answer of your hypothetical, but you have to understand nuance and argue honestly to do that. You just want to snipe, for some reason.

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