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re: If you vote for a democrat or a republican next election you are supporting this
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:23 pm to AussieRock
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:23 pm to AussieRock
quote:You claimed an "exact equivalence" in a vote and no vote and were proven wrong and have stayed quiet.
But, you two are the ones claiming to have some better course of action..........but, you can't say what that course of action addresses AT ALL!
You said I was taking my ball and going home then made 2 posts stating there's nothing we can do about it, and you haven't conceded you messed up there either.
So... here we are
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:24 pm to shel311
shel please repost my answer to his dumbass question so that he has to acknowledge it lol
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:24 pm to sgallo3
quote:
remove Ds and Rs from the ballot and no chance in hell Biden wins any election.
Do you mean remove party affiliations, but the same people are running?
quote:I don't. Personally, I would have no issue with that not being the case.
why do you think it's right for every candidate on the ballot to have a letter next to their name
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:25 pm to sgallo3
quote:its frustrating when "you haven't explained something " is the reply to "you haven’t said what I wanted you to say so I can be right"
shel please repost my answer to his dumbass question so that he has to acknowledge it lol
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:25 pm to shel311
quote:False
You claimed an "exact equivalence" in a vote and no vote and were proven wrong and have stayed quiet.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:26 pm to AussieRock
quote:So 1-0 is the same as 0-0?
False
We sure about that?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:26 pm to shel311
quote:gallo made an attempt. I'd missed it but have responded
its frustrating when "you haven't explained something " is the reply to "you haven’t said what I wanted you to say so I can be right"
You haven't even tried
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:28 pm to AussieRock
quote:You can't tell someone they're not not trying in a debate when you've argued multiple posts that 1-0 is an "exact equivalence" to 0-0
You haven't even tried
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:28 pm to AussieRock
quote:
Do you mean remove party affiliations, but the same people are running?
yes. if everyone voted independent there wouldn't be any party affiliations on the ballot. that is 1 problem it would definitely solve.
there would still be shadow parties but at least they wouldn't have a letter that showed it next to their name on the ballot so that people that didn't know the candidate could vote for them
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:33 pm to shel311
quote:
So 1-0 is the same as 0-0?
We sure about that?
It ain't complicated. We simply need to imagine an election where you are the last vote cast and your vote, somehow, in that super tight election, the person you hate the most is ahead by 1 vote.
Your call.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:34 pm to sgallo3
quote:I'm fine removing affiliations.
yes. if everyone voted independent there wouldn't be any party affiliations on the ballot. that is 1 problem it would definitely solve.
Not sure of what functional real world problem we will solve with doing that though. And, not sure how this matters in terms of 3rd parties
Not like Repubs and Democrats aren't going to spend a great deal of $$$ still.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:35 pm to sgallo3
quote:
so please just vote independent.
Harris - D
Desantis - R
Tarzana - I
Who do I vote for?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:36 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
Harris - D
Desantis - R
Tarzana - I
Who do I vote for?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:36 pm to sgallo3
quote:
no. I didn't say "republicans should vote for third parties" I said everyone should.
News flash for you: marxist democrats will vote for marxist democrats. The destruction of this country is their primary objective. They want to remake this country according to marxist/socialist principles, so they must first destroy the republic that exists.
quote:
but continue to play the "but if i vote for someone else and they don't my guy will lose" card if it makes you feel justified.
Justified? Most republicans and all conservatives are not actively and overtly working to destroy the Constitution and the liberty of Americans. Granted, I abhor a large percentage of republicans, but they aren’t the ones suppressing free speech, trying to destroy the judiciary, and making a mockery of our elections via allowing criminal illegals to vote, counting millions of fraudulent votes, and destroying the electoral college. Republicans aren’t openly talking about violation the Second Amendment.
Justified? You bet. Voting for shitty republicans isn’t worth a damn, but slowing the progress towards the violence you and I both know is coming is certainly preferable to accelerating the process to the point where we are killing each other. Until that happens, there is always the chance that we return to Constitutional principle, mandate, and restraint.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:56 pm to AussieRock
quote:So to confirm, you're conceding your comments only makes sense in a pretend world and has no application in any real world/election situation.
It ain't complicated. We simply need to imagine an election where you are the last vote cast and your vote, somehow, in that super tight election, the person you hate the most is ahead by 1 vote.
Your call.
Got it. Thanks.
That being said, I'm going to use your logic to prove to you that my vote is not being thrown away as you claim. If we were to imagine an election where I'm the last vote cast and the 3 candidates are all tied. My vote will decide the winner. So now explain how it's a wasted vote??
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:08 pm to sgallo3
quote:
yes. if everyone voted independent there wouldn't be any party affiliations on the ballot. that is 1 problem it would definitely solve.
It would cause people to research every candidate.
It's much easier to realize who the retard is with a D next to their name.
But I am one of the ones who won't vote for a Republican if they suck.
I left the 2008 and 2012 presidential races blank.
I refused to vote for McCain or Romney.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:09 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:10 pm to shel311
quote:Again, the fact that I had to even attempt to simplify it for you is an indication of your own ignorance. I can't fix that.
So to confirm, you're conceding your comments only makes sense in a pretend world and has no application in any real world/election situation.
quote:Well, if your state problem is, "this system produces too much shitty", seems to me that any vote that tends to ensure the MOST shitty result counts as a throw away.
My vote will decide the winner. So now explain how it's a wasted vote??
Or, maybe you want the most shitty result?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:14 pm to 93and99
quote:Agreed
It would cause people to research every candidate.
Alas, this "research" would necessarily draw them to the people best able to get their information out there and those people would almost always be the best funded so.........meh
Same Same
quote:I think McCain was compromised. I think he may have been compromised his entire political career. Romney on the other hand is a classic case of wanting the "in" people to like him too much. Mostly because regardless of his politics, he's just more comfrortable around a bunch of DC elite than he is around rank and file Republicans.
I refused to vote for McCain or Romney.
In hindsight, we would have regretted a McCain election mightily. Romney, much as I can't stand him now, would have basically been Bush SR.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:21 pm to AussieRock
quote:All you proved is your "fact" never works in a real world application.
Again, the fact that I had to even attempt to simplify it for you is an indication of your own ignorance. I can't fix that.
quote:
And in doing so, you do concede that I've proven to you that my vote is not wasted, correct? I'm sure you won't use 1 imaginary example to prove a point then tell me I can't use the same imaginary example to prove a point.
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