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Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:05 am to
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:05 am to
Lonzo’s also better than every guard on this team, we can cherry pick any player and focus on only negatives for one game, but you all keep telling yourselves how terrible he is while simultaneously talking yourselves into paying to get guys like Buddy Hield, Cam Reddish before the trade that would require a significant raise to keep, Evan Fournier etc.

Probably would have all declared Griff a god in the off-season had he signed Hardaway to 22 million a year lol.

Fact is all Griff had to do as GM to succeed is literally nothing and this team would be in a significantly different place right now. Just resign the guys you were forced to take by being locked into the Lakers trade because Klutch/AD, take BPA in Garland/Hunter at 4 instead of moving back, and then pay those guys when their contracts come up. Move them if upgrades present themselves.

But instead three years in we still have people defending Griffs poor judgement. Lonzo being the latest. Who we are now once again talking about relinquishing assets to find a guy that can replace what he already brought(while trying to justify Griff’s getting us to that point by losing said player for basically nothing). I said it during his hiring, Griff is the ultimate Rube Goldberg GM. He’ll burn through your assets and wow you with the machinery, but when the dust settles and you look at the end result, he hasn’t really gotten you much further with his wheeling and dealing.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:07 am to
No, Bronc, I have said multiple times recently that the Lonzo trade is an obvious fail on the part of our front office. There's no excuse for it. And I was ambivalent about re-signing Lonzo---I did not have a strong opinion either way.

Lonzo has continued to improve his shooting this season, and he's a better defensive fit there than he was with us last season.

But the problems aren't going away either. The five first-half turnovers were because the Warriors knew that he wouldn't drive to the rim, so they could cheat on the pass when Lonzo came off a pick. It's the same 'ol Lonzo, and we Pelicans fans would be very frustrated with the 2022 version of Lonzo if he were on our team at $20 million per.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3676 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 12:49 pm to
Paying and locking in Lonzo for 20mil a year does nothing for this team as he is not the answer we need for our problems

At least now we have the flexibility to move forward and find the right piece, hopefully.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7373 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Rube Goldberg


I only agree with part of your assessment, but this was enough for me to give you an upvote!

I would call him a rocking chair GM though... Constantly in motion but never gets you anywhere
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4728 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:03 pm to
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themselves. But instead three years in we still have people defending Griffs poor judgement. Lonzo being the latest. Who we are now once again talking about relinquishing assets to find a guy that can replace what he already brought

If you watched Lonzo here the last 2 years and had yourself convinced he is what we needed, I don’t know what to tell you. He is a slightly above average player. He was on a team that was fully healthy and was still terrible. I don’t agree with giving him away for nothing, but we have definitive proof that he really doesn’t move the needle.

The team, even without Zion, is essentially the same as we were last year. The bulls are playing great this year. I’d attribute that more to Demar and Lavine both close to averaging 25/5/5.

Y’all make absurd Lonzo posts while completely ignoring the fact that the guy this team was built around has played 0 minutes this year. And we’re pretty much just as good as we were last year with Lonzo and Zion. He added nothing to this team. Get over it
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