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What am I missing with NIL
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:02 am
I would assume the whole purpose is so that a company can use the NAME, IMAGE OR LIKENESS in advertising.
So, where are the adds, commercials, etc.....with all these kids either doing promo's, head shots, etc.
If a company DOESN'T produce a commercial, or something USING the NIL, then this straight paying kids for play and should be illegal? Right?
I don't live in LA, so maybe this is a thing, I just don't see it nationally....yet.
So, where are the adds, commercials, etc.....with all these kids either doing promo's, head shots, etc.
If a company DOESN'T produce a commercial, or something USING the NIL, then this straight paying kids for play and should be illegal? Right?
I don't live in LA, so maybe this is a thing, I just don't see it nationally....yet.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:10 am
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:10 am to oneg8rh8r
I’ve seen BTJ in a Neighbor’s Credit Union commercial.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:11 am to oneg8rh8r
I wonder if an NIL deal has any contractual obligations?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:02 am to oneg8rh8r
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I would assume the whole purpose is so that a company can use the NAME, IMAGE OR LIKENESS in advertising.
Not exactly but close. It is so the kid can earn money from his name, image , or likeness.
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If a company DOESN'T produce a commercial, or something USING the NIL, then this straight paying kids for play and should be illegal? Right?
Technically correct. But that could be as simple as appearing at an autograph signing of even the company giving out calendars with the kids picture or signature on it. The value is supposed to be somehow commensurate with the services, just not sure how to really measure that.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:06 am to mdomingue
and if company "X" gives a NIL deal, it is with that player....are the contracts school specific?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:29 am to oneg8rh8r
My guess is about 99% of them are for promoting the company on social media. And they aren't national brands you would see on TV anyway.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:29 am to mdomingue
quote:In some states. Not in others.
The value is supposed to be somehow commensurate with the services, just not sure how to really measure that.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:58 am to Gravitiger
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In some states. Not in others.
The NCAA has issued statements suggesting this, by my recollection, but they really need to have an official policy rather than the vague guidelines they have now.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:09 am to oneg8rh8r
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If a company DOESN'T produce a commercial, or something USING the NIL, then this straight paying kids for play and should be illegal? Right?
It doesn’t have to be commercials. It could be sign some autographs, make an appearance somewhere, or post a hashtag on social media.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:11 am to Gravitiger
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My guess is about 99% of them are for promoting the company on social media.
This is it for the "real" NIL deals. LSU celebrated NIL in Times Square with gymnast Olivia Dunne & she's constantly posting ads to her 1M+ followers, which is making her a lot of money.
The things Jackson St., A&M, Bama, UT, etc are doing aren't really NIL deals. I think those are more boosters "legally" paying players. If I saw an ad with Travis Hunter, I wouldn't have a clue who that is. Is Barstool Sports planning on doing any promos with that kid anytime soon? Probably not.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:14 am to oneg8rh8r
My guess is very little promotion is done and it's just legalizing the paying of players.
LSU is way behind.
LSU is way behind.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:19 am to oneg8rh8r
You are missing that it is still only a small minority of kids that are getting legit NIL deals
It doesn’t seem widespread because it’s not
It doesn’t seem widespread because it’s not
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:28 am to lsufb1912
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:29 am to mdomingue
quote:Any policy they create would be superseded by the state laws that already exist. The only things that will universalize the rules across all schools are (1) federal NIL legislation or (2) collective bargaining between the players and schools.
The NCAA has issued statements suggesting this, by my recollection, but they really need to have an official policy rather than the vague guidelines they have now.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:27 pm to oneg8rh8r
A kid like Denver Harris gettting 400K is ridiculous. What kind of return is the company supporting his NIL looking at? They aren’t making money, it’s legalizing paying him to attend aTm.
The marketing deal is limited to a small area. No one would buy anything because a recruit from aTm is promoting their product outside college station.
I hope aTm crashes and burns
The marketing deal is limited to a small area. No one would buy anything because a recruit from aTm is promoting their product outside college station.
I hope aTm crashes and burns
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:03 pm to LSUcajun77
NIL in its basic form seems like a good idea - autographs, advertising deals, etc.
But what these insane boosters are doing is crazy and terrible for the game of college football.
Now, we hear roster tampering is prevalent.
But what these insane boosters are doing is crazy and terrible for the game of college football.
Now, we hear roster tampering is prevalent.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:51 pm to oneg8rh8r
In the early season, Stingley advertised frequently for Walk-On’s on IG. Don’t remember seeing much after he was sidelined. He also had a deal with one of Ford dealerships, and saw a few spots with them as well.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 4:11 pm to Gravitiger
quote:They cannot limit NIL for the player but they can clearly delineate what the schools involvement can be.
Any policy they create would be superseded by the state laws that already exist. The only things that will universalize the rules across all schools are (1) federal NIL legislation or (2) collective bargaining between the players and schools.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 5:24 pm to mdomingue
quote:The rule is already that schools cannot be involved in arranging deals.
They cannot limit NIL for the player but they can clearly delineate what the schools involvement can be.
If the NCAA makes any rule contrary to state law, schools will just leave the organization.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:56 pm to oneg8rh8r
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and if company "X" gives a NIL deal, it is with that player....are the contracts school specific?
No. There is specific language in the NIL/NCAA rules that does not allow this. Athletes haven't even been allowed to use their school's logo or sports teams jerseys in the advertisements. I think there are some deals that have started to allow the athlete to wear the schools logo in ads, but it's still new.
i.e. you won't see any commercials with Bryce Young wearing his Bama jersey.
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