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Rethinking my whole Winn Parish compound idea

Posted on 10/2/08 at 11:25 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 11:25 am
Seems like a whole lot of work to start subsistence farming in an area that generations of my family barely kept from starving. I'm thinking that staying near the more developed (i.e. populated) areas is more practical (i.e. easy). There will be an abundant supply of food there when the downfall comes . . .

. . . and when you think about it, is cannibalism really that wrong?
Posted by GeauxElliott
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
3728 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 11:28 am to
Just remember.. your taking a chance with your health.. Obese city people aren't as healthy as rural people...
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 11:33 am to
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Obese city people


Tyler Durden said they are good for making soap.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 1:01 pm to
find a Sam's Club somewhere and when Armageddon comes take it over with an armed group. The non-perishable foodstuffs would last for years and it would be relatively easy to defend with snipers on the roof. And there would be mattresses to sleep on and furniture and tools and all kinds of useful stuff. Also, computers and big screen TVs and refrigerators and a lot of useless crap. Well, the refrigerators would be good for baricading the doors.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

find a Sam's Club somewhere and when Armageddon comes take it over with an armed group.

Walmart would be a good choice too. Not as many useful tools, but they do have guns and skylights.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 3:26 pm to
stick with a place on septic...no sewage. It makes all the difference when you have no power...especially in a populated area. Of course, for everyone you eat, there's less poo to worry about.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 3:58 pm to
On further thought the best place is the limestone tunnels they have outside Kansas City. Grocery chains store an incredible amount of food in those manmade caves because it is cool and dry. The government stores a lot of food there too (lots of cheese). It is perfect because:

Food forever.
Extremely easy to defend.
Dry.
Cool in summer.
Warm in winter.

With all the food in your control you could quickly build an army of loyal serfs who farm the rich river soil outside. The river would also be a handy transportation system for trade (vitamin D tablets mostly) with neighboring fiefdoms.

The only downside is that the midwest is extremely boring but raids from your neighbors would help with that.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:22 pm to
Your reaction time with an armed group will probably be too slow to get there before the individual looters assemble into an overwhelming mob. You are better off identifying wholesale distribution warehouses and assaulting them in an orderly fashion. There will be food and other supplies on ready to transport pallets together with the necessary handling and transportation equipment. Take all that you can to your well defended compound, and use the surplus for bartering with other survivors. The requisitioned trucks will be useful for a variety of reasons, just their diesel fuel will come in handy if nothing else.

You want to work higher up the supply chain rather than at the end of it. Greater efficiency.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15334 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:29 pm to
You should also be careful to pick a place with a minimum of natural disasters. Kansas City would be safe from hurricanes obviously, and I'm pretty sure it's far enough away from tornado alley so that's not a huge concern. You'd have to deal with river flooding, but that's easy enough to predict and prepare for. I do think it's on a fault line though.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37570 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:38 pm to
Me and my army of mexican whores and mini-cows would thrive in either a rural or more developed setting.
Posted by RockingTheBayou
Monroe Proud
Member since Jul 2008
749 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 5:46 pm to
so yall think some Mad Max shite is going to go down? lol
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Kansas City would be safe from hurricanes obviously, and I'm pretty sure it's far enough away from tornado alley


No, KC is in tornado alley but the headquarters would be in a cave. Serfs will be lost occasionally but they are easily replaced.

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You'd have to deal with river flooding, but that's easy enough to predict and prepare for. I do think it's on a fault line though.


The caves are constructed well above potential floods but the fields could be affected so they would have to be located carefully. Crops are really not a big deal with a nearly infinite supply of canned corn and spam but it would be nice to have fresh veggies (maybe Endive) and maybe herds of (mini)cattle.

KC is not on a fault line, the New Madrid fault is on the other side of the state.

quote:

Your reaction time with an armed group will probably be too slow to get there before the individual looters assemble into an overwhelming mob. You are better off identifying wholesale distribution warehouses and assaulting them in an orderly fashion. There will be food and other supplies on ready to transport pallets together with the necessary handling and transportation equipment. Take all that you can to your well defended compound, and use the surplus for bartering with other survivors


This would have to be planned out well in advance with an armed group ready to roll at a moment's notice. Distribution warehouses would be easier but there is a massive difference in the amount of food stored in the caves versus what could be hauled out of warehouses in trucks. Once taken the caves are perfect for defense and will set you up to feed a large group for life if you don't forget a can opener. No need to rely on transporting it through maurading gangs (see Mad Max).

Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15334 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:54 pm to
You're obviously the man with the plan here. I'd be honored to sign up as one of your serfs.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/3/08 at 10:40 am to
I think you would draw the attention of the Army units stationed at Ft. Riley if you were to try and commandeer the food supplies outside Kansas City.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 10/3/08 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I think you would draw the attention of the Army units stationed at Ft. Riley if you were to try and commandeer the food supplies outside Kansas City.


Ah well. This is where my plan falls to the ground. There's no possible way of answering that argument, I'm afraid. I was only hoping you would not make that particular point, but I can see you're more than a match for me!
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 10/3/08 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Ah well. This is where my plan falls to the ground. There's no possible way of answering that argument, I'm afraid.



I think offering food to the army so they will become your private army might work.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/3/08 at 1:45 pm to
Great concession speech there Mr. Norman Voles.

BTW, I can burrow through an elephant.
This post was edited on 10/3/08 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 10/3/08 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Great concession speech there Mr. Norman Voles.


It's always been one of my favorite Python bits. Great pick up, that's fairly obscure.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 10:39 am to
Coolidge and I would use that bit whenever someone pointed out the obvious in an argument/discussion. As such, I couldn't let the opportunity pass to let on that I knew where it came. Sort of a tribute to Coolidge.
Posted by GeauxElliott
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
3728 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 3:20 pm to
You should invite cash and his army of mexican whores and mini-cows to be one of your serfs... that would help you keep the soldiers happy...
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