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The truth comes out about USC..
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:16 am
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Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:23 am to sugatowng
It's a good read only if you buy the "best evarr" hype.
We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
Stand by.
We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
Stand by.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:36 am to sugatowng
That article pretty much sums up the way I feel, except...
The 1966 Bama team was raped even more than the '04 Barners. They started the season #1, went undefeated, beat the friggin' whey out of Nebraska in a bowl game, and was jumped by a ND team in the last poll who sat on a tie in their last game. This would have been a threepeat, BTW.
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Alabama 1961-66 – The Tide went 60-5-1 (.917) over these six seasons, fielded two undefeated teams and won two national titles.
The 1966 Bama team was raped even more than the '04 Barners. They started the season #1, went undefeated, beat the friggin' whey out of Nebraska in a bowl game, and was jumped by a ND team in the last poll who sat on a tie in their last game. This would have been a threepeat, BTW.
This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 11:47 am
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:38 am to arlo
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The 1966 Bama team raped even more than the '04 Barners. They started the season #1, went undefeated, beat the friggin' whey out of Nebraska in a bowl game, and was jumped by a ND team in the last poll who sat on a tie in their last game. This would have been a threepeat, BTW
Agreed. That Bama team was no doubt the best in the country.
What screwed them was the rest of the country wanting to "punish" The South for racism, IMHO.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:55 am to loweralabamatrojan
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We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
Good luck with that Mike Riley
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:07 pm to sugatowng
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LSU has never struggled to beat teams like Oregon State
Yeah. Anybody remember Oregon st in 2004?
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:27 pm to sugatowng
Damn, looks like someone's been reading my posts. I've been saying for quite some time that USC is over-rated and that Pete Carroll is a great RECRUITER, not a great coach. Great teams just don't lose to the likes of Stanford, UCLA and Oregon State routinely.
The worst thing that happened to USC was that Norm Chow left, and that exposed Pete Carroll for the mediocre coach that he is.
Now, if the PAC-1+9 ever got more competitive, then he'd really be in trouble.
Don't give me that "he has TOO much talent on his team" bullcrap either. That didn't seem to bother Jimmie Johnson when he was at Miami. That guy had an NFL roster on his team every year, and he seemed to win big without a problem.
Pete Carroll's the Wizard of Oz of college football.
The worst thing that happened to USC was that Norm Chow left, and that exposed Pete Carroll for the mediocre coach that he is.
Now, if the PAC-1+9 ever got more competitive, then he'd really be in trouble.
Don't give me that "he has TOO much talent on his team" bullcrap either. That didn't seem to bother Jimmie Johnson when he was at Miami. That guy had an NFL roster on his team every year, and he seemed to win big without a problem.
Pete Carroll's the Wizard of Oz of college football.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:45 pm to arlo
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This would have been a threepeat, BTW.
Sorry, but according to ESPN, the concept of "threePete" only applies to Carroll.
Nice try, though.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:51 pm to TexTgrTed
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LSU has never struggled to beat teams like Oregon State
Horndog's correct....Ask Marcus Randall about that statement....
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:17 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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Agreed. That Bama team was no doubt the best in the country.
What screwed them was the rest of the country wanting to "punish" The South for racism, IMHO
You don't have to be a Bama or Coach Bryant fan to enjoy "The Missing Ring" by Keith Dunnavant. I couldn't put the book down. Those were different times. One player didn't get married because he was too afraid to ask CPB's permission. In the "who's the bigger a-hole" category," Saban can't hold a candle to Bryant.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:20 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
OSU is better this year.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:23 pm to horndog
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Yeah. Anybody remember Oregon st in 2004?
Yeah. Anybody remember Louisiana-Monroe is 2007?
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:28 pm to horndog
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LSU has never struggled to beat teams like Oregon State
Yeah. Anybody remember Oregon st in 2004?
Yea, that was a stupid statement, but leave it to a gump to point that out. By the way, Saban was our coach at the time.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:36 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
Your not that either.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:48 pm to arlo
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The 1966 Bama team was raped even more than the '04 Barners. They started the season #1, went undefeated, beat the friggin' whey out of Nebraska in a bowl game, and was jumped by a ND team in the last poll who sat on a tie in their last game.
I think Michigan State had the best team that year. They had 4 players taken in the first 8 picks of the draft that year (the #1, #2, #5, and #8 overall).
A couple of corrections to your post based on the AP vote.
o Bama was #1 only in preseason. They were #3 or #4 every other week.
o ND jumped Bama on 10/3 (the 3rd week of the season not counting preseason). ND became #1 on on 10/17 (the 5th week).
o On 11/7 (the 8th week) the ranking was ND, MSU, and Bama and remained that way the rest of the season.
o The ND tie was with MSU. Why would a tie between the #1 and #2 team lead to the #3 team passing them?
o The final AP poll, and the championship was awarded before the bowl games back then. It wasn't until the 68 season that they did a post bowl final ranking.
This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:53 pm to HighPlainsDrifter
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Your not that either.
We might be better than LSU, and LSU is #2.
That would make us #1.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 2:05 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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We might be better than LSU, and LSU is #2.
Thats a big might. You guys would 3/4 in the SEC.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 2:18 pm to arlo
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In the "who's the bigger a-hole" category," Saban can't hold a candle to Bryant.
I don't think that you will get any argument over that little factoid. But that doesn't stop little Nicky from trying.
I wish that he would joke around at least once in a presser. I mean really joke around, not just crack some lame joke with a partial smile. Then some media members laugh uncomfortably because they don't want to piss him off.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 3:02 pm to lpd1975
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We don't need to be the best ever, just the best this year.
Any chance of that was shot to hell by Oregon St.
Posted on 10/1/08 at 3:19 pm to Indiana Tiger
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The 1966 Bama team was raped even more than the '04 Barners. They started the season #1, went undefeated, beat the friggin' whey out of Nebraska in a bowl game, and was jumped by a ND team in the last poll who sat on a tie in their last game.
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I think Michigan State had the best team that year. They had 4 players taken in the first 8 picks of the draft that year (the #1, #2, #5, and #8 overall).
Possibly. MSU didn't show up for the bowl game the previous year though.
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A couple of corrections to your post based on the AP vote.
OK...
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o Bama was #1 only in preseason. They were #3 or #4 every other week.
How does this contradict what I posted?
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o ND jumped Bama on 10/3 (the 3rd week of the season not counting preseason). ND became #1 on on 10/17 (the 5th week).
o On 11/7 (the 8th week) the ranking was ND, MSU, and Bama and remained that way the rest of the season.
This goes in the category of a quibble. How did ND and MSU become ranked ahead of an undefeated Bama?
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o The ND tie was with MSU. Why would a tie between the #1 and #2 team lead to the #3 team passing them?
The bigger question is how could the AP vote a team who played for a tie as NC? Bama was the only unbeaten and untied team in '66.
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o The final AP poll, and the championship was awarded before the bowl games back then. It wasn't until the 68 season that they did a post bowl final ranking.
Actually no, but I'm glad you brought it up. In '64, Bama was undefeated in the regular season and won a NC but lost in the bowl game. The AP decided to change the rules in '65, but after #1 (MSU) and #2(Ark) both lost in their bowl games, #4 Bama beat #3 Nebraska to win another NC. Mysteriously, AP changed their rules again in '66 where Bama went undefeated, beat the shite out of Nebraska, but wasn't voted #1.
Why was the AP changing the rules?
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