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Our government has gone so off-track, I pause and listen to what the Russians have to say

Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7497 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:35 pm
The US/EU/UN/WHO = collective west.

It's like Star Wars.
The collective west is the Empire subjugating the universe. Are we the baddies?


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov's speech to the UN General Assembly addressed: direct war between the US/Russia over Ukraine, the West's empire of lies, promoting conflict, provoking a food and energy crisis and the US fighting against a multi-polar world.

Zero Hedge

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...the West and NATO's role in Ukraine has gone well beyond just a hybrid or proxy war, but it's actually become a "direct" war- given the heavy weapons being provided, targeting assistance given to Kiev, intelligence-sharing, and the fact that Russian soil is now being frequently hit, often by foreign weapons. You can call this whatever you want to call this, but they are directly at war with us,” he said.


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"The US and its subordinate Western collective are continuing to fuel conflicts which artificially divide humanity into hostile blocks and hamper the achievement of overall aims," he said. "They’re doing everything they can to prevent the formation of a genuine multipolar world order."


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Americans and Europeans are engaged in "quasi-colonial methods of subjugation."
“Our future is being shaped by a struggle, a struggle between the global majority, in favor of a fair distribution of global benefits… and the few who wield near-colonial methods of subjugation in order to maintain their dominance, which is slipping through their fingers."



The rest of the world is tired of exchanging their resources for fiat currency.




Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
531 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:40 pm to
Yes, we put guns to the Russians' heads and said invade or we will kill you.

In other news, America has decided to make Mexico the next 10 states because the Russians support their leftist government and we need to save the English speaking mormons from the nazi cartels.

We were forced!
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:41 pm to
FFS.

What does he say about shelling apartment complexes and kidnapping and trafficking Ukraine children?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
14976 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:43 pm to
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What does he say about shelling apartment complexes and kidnapping and trafficking Ukraine children?


I’ve been assured by you Groomers that such a thing as child trafficking doesn’t exist and it’s just “Qanon conspiracy theory”.
Posted by Shakey
Member since Sep 2023
107 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Putin
I ask questions when our politicians tell me we need to fund Ukraine more.

But I will not entertain an autocrat who wants to disrupt the world order.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62294 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:48 pm to
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Lavrov then proceeds to recap the whole sordid affair from the first coup in 2004-5 to the present as a well-seasoned Prosecuting Attorney would do. IMO, it's devastating.

And indeed it was a swatting away of the lies told by Blinken then Biden at the UNGA. What he provided to the UNSC was a total repudiation of every lie the West has told and recapped many of the West’s wanton crimes against the UN Charter. But it will be up to individual readers to see/read for themselves and decide if Lavrov indeed delivered a fatal blow to the West in the eyes of the Global Globe:

LINK
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7497 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:48 pm to
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What does he say about shelling apartment complexes and kidnapping and trafficking Ukraine children?


It's been proven more than once Zelenskyy has shelled his own people and blamed the Russians...the rest of your statement sounds like projection.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33910 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:50 pm to
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What does he say about shelling apartment complexes


What does the Obama drone program have to do with this?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30996 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:54 pm to
We are indeed the bad guys

That does not mean Russians are white hats; but we started this war, we are escalating it and it is all for power and money
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:56 pm to
Yep. Russia is telling more of the truth than the western media and its lies. Strange times we live in folks.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7497 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Lavrov then proceeds to recap the whole sordid affair from the first coup in 2004-5 to the present as a well-seasoned Prosecuting Attorney would do. IMO, it's devastating.



Epic! Should be required reading for every groomer and OT bloodlust thread participant.
Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
531 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:59 pm to
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We are indeed the bad guys

That does not mean Russians are white hats; but we started this war, we are escalating it and it is all for power and money


What action did we take that forced Russia to roll tanks into Ukraine lob missiles killing women and children, and artillery strike entire cities to rubble?

I assume we nuked them or something, but I may have missed it in the news
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30996 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:04 pm to
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What action did we take that forced Russia to roll tanks into Ukraine


the push to bring them into NATO

we had the same reaction when they tried to do the same in Cuba

this war is a huge grift and it’s obvious to anyone paying attention

This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 8:08 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70268 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:06 pm to
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What action did we take that forced Russia to roll tanks into Ukraine lob missiles killing women and children, and artillery strike entire cities to rubble?


Let's presume for the sake of this argument that the West did absolutely nothing to provoke Russia's invasion. Why is the US involved? I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
531 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

the push to brink them into NATO

we had the same reaction when they tried to do the same in Cuba

this war is a huge grift and it’s obvious to anyone paying attention


Cuba is probably the most accurate comparison, but even at the height of the cold war the worst we were ready to do was arm a bunch of Cubans to try to start a coup.

At no point did we roll American troops into Havana because we didn't like their government.

So I'll ask again, what did we do that required Russia to invade a sovereign nation?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:10 pm to
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But I will not entertain an autocrat who wants to disrupt the world order.

Victoria Nuland and baraq Obama?

crossing the red line drawn in the eyes of the entire world when it was said NATO should never incorporate Ukraine

Clear to everyone except you war mongering lowlife
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30996 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:12 pm to
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So I'll ask again, what did we do that required Russia to invade a sovereign nation?
we also spent the better part of 6 years (maybe longer) pushing ridiculous propaganda about Russia, the Trump Russia nonsense, blaming them for election interference, etc…

Then when Trump was pushed out via stolen election; we start beating war drums and pushing to expand the NATO umbrella

We backed them into a corner and acted surprised when they reacted

We also blew up their pipe line and are now assisting in targeting sites in their country

We’ve been fricking around, I hope we scale this horseshite back before we find out
Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
531 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Let's presume for the sake of this argument that the West did absolutely nothing to provoke Russia's invasion. Why is the US involved? I'll hang up and listen.


It's not in US interests to have Russia (or anyone else for that matter) invading anyone they don't like, or gets mad at because of mean tweets. There days of empire building are over and need to stay in the past, as they just lead to massive conflicts where everyone suffers.

Wars in Europe in particular tend to spiral badly. Our economy is dependent on trade with Europe, so it's in our best interests to nip this in the bud before he starts doing this shite elsewhere that might require a more direct response.

Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3269 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Yes, we put guns to the Russians' heads and said invade or we will kill you.



Not quite, but pretty damned close to it.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30996 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

It's not in US interests to have Russia (or anyone else for that matter) invading anyone they don't like, or gets mad at because of mean tweets.


mean tweet?

Wow - this would NEVER have escalated like this with Trump n office - hell the main reason Trump is so hated is that he stayed the wars that allowed the great grifts

You’ve just outed yourself as a moron
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