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US government ponders the meaning of race and ethnicity
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:38 am
more racial bean counting
US government ponders the meaning of race and ethnicity
Nyhiem Way is weary of people conflating African American and Black. Shalini Parekh wants a way for South Asian people to identify themselves differently than East Asians with roots in places like China or Japan. And Byron Haskins wants the U.S. to toss racial and ethnic labels altogether.
“When you set up categories that are used to place people in boxes, sometime you miss the truth of them,” said Haskins, who describes himself as African American.
Way, Parekh and Haskins' voices are among more than 4,300 comments pending before the Biden administration as it contemplates updating the nation's racial and ethnic categories for the first time since 1997.
There's a lot to consider.
Some Black Americans want their ancestors' enslavement recognized in how they are identified. Some Jewish people believe their identity should be seen as its own ethnic category and not only a religion. The idea of revising categories for ethnic and racial identities, both in the census and in gathering demographic information between head counts, have fueled editorials and think-tank essays as well as thousands of written comments by individuals in what is almost a Rorschach test for how Americans identify themselves.
The White House’s Office of Management and Budget is set to decide on new classifications next year and is hosting three virtual town halls on the subject this week.
Some conservatives question the process itself, saying the overarching premise that Americans need more ethnic categories will only accelerate Balkanization.
“By creating and deepening sub-national identities, the government further contributes to the decline of one national American identity,” wrote Mike Gonzalez, a senior fellow at The Heritage Foundation, in his personal comment posted on the OMB web page seeking public input.
That view contrasts sharply with those who say previous categories have overlooked nuances.
“This is certainly a singular moment and opportunity to greatly improve and enhance the accuracy and completeness of the data," Mario Beovides, director of policy and legislative affairs for the NALEO Educational Fund, said during a recent forum.
The proposed changes would create a new category for people of Middle Eastern and North African descent, also known by the acronym MENA, who are now classified as white but say they have been routinely undercounted.
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US government ponders the meaning of race and ethnicity
Nyhiem Way is weary of people conflating African American and Black. Shalini Parekh wants a way for South Asian people to identify themselves differently than East Asians with roots in places like China or Japan. And Byron Haskins wants the U.S. to toss racial and ethnic labels altogether.
“When you set up categories that are used to place people in boxes, sometime you miss the truth of them,” said Haskins, who describes himself as African American.
Way, Parekh and Haskins' voices are among more than 4,300 comments pending before the Biden administration as it contemplates updating the nation's racial and ethnic categories for the first time since 1997.
There's a lot to consider.
Some Black Americans want their ancestors' enslavement recognized in how they are identified. Some Jewish people believe their identity should be seen as its own ethnic category and not only a religion. The idea of revising categories for ethnic and racial identities, both in the census and in gathering demographic information between head counts, have fueled editorials and think-tank essays as well as thousands of written comments by individuals in what is almost a Rorschach test for how Americans identify themselves.
The White House’s Office of Management and Budget is set to decide on new classifications next year and is hosting three virtual town halls on the subject this week.
Some conservatives question the process itself, saying the overarching premise that Americans need more ethnic categories will only accelerate Balkanization.
“By creating and deepening sub-national identities, the government further contributes to the decline of one national American identity,” wrote Mike Gonzalez, a senior fellow at The Heritage Foundation, in his personal comment posted on the OMB web page seeking public input.
That view contrasts sharply with those who say previous categories have overlooked nuances.
“This is certainly a singular moment and opportunity to greatly improve and enhance the accuracy and completeness of the data," Mario Beovides, director of policy and legislative affairs for the NALEO Educational Fund, said during a recent forum.
The proposed changes would create a new category for people of Middle Eastern and North African descent, also known by the acronym MENA, who are now classified as white but say they have been routinely undercounted.
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:41 am to djmed
I identify this week as ________________. Next week I identify as ___________
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:44 am to djmed
Why do they get to be called African Americans when all humans came from Africa? The whole continent was originally white but then they all moved out
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:46 am to djmed
More division. Might as well label us all Yugoslavian.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 10:48 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:57 am to djmed
quote:.
South Asian people to identify themselves differently than East Asians with roots in places like China or Japan.
They're called Oriental and Occidnetal.
These are term of SCIENCE.
Yet again, the fricking utter stupidity of PC culture is to blame for a problem that doesn't have to exist.
In Europe the term "Asian" refers to Indians and Paks, etc, and NOT far east oriental countries like we think of the term as.
After all... It's only the biggest and most diverse continent in existence.
So let's just lump them all together!! Racism cured!
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:58 am to djmed
quote:Just add a Semitic category, then watch the Jews and Arabs squawk about being put in the same group.
Some Jewish people believe their identity should be seen as its own ethnic category and not only a religion
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:58 am to djmed
Its a fairy tale, trying to systemize something that isnt possible to systemize.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:02 am to djmed
quote:
The White House’s Office of Management and Budget is set to decide on new classifications next year

Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:03 am to Jack Ruby
quote:
They're called Oriental
That's considered racist today, which is kind of funny.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:14 am to djmed
Gawd...when will this nightmare end. There are 3 categories of importance for the federal govt and no more.
Legality - Citizen (ie. American), Legal Resident, Illegal Alien
Sex - Male or Female
Age - Adult or Minor
If these people want to change it up then their legal status should be required. Frick'em.
Add this garbage change to another thing the next Repub Prez needs to change in his first 100 days. We really need a next Repub Prez first 100 days list, so his team can get a start on it.
Legality - Citizen (ie. American), Legal Resident, Illegal Alien
Sex - Male or Female
Age - Adult or Minor
If these people want to change it up then their legal status should be required. Frick'em.
Add this garbage change to another thing the next Repub Prez needs to change in his first 100 days. We really need a next Repub Prez first 100 days list, so his team can get a start on it.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:16 am to djmed
quote:
Some conservatives question the process itself, saying the overarching premise that Americans need more ethnic categories will only accelerate Balkanization.
"Diversity is our strength"
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:48 am to KAGTASTIC
quote:
Some conservatives question the process itself, saying the overarching premise that Americans need more ethnic categories will only accelerate Balkanization.

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