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Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:48 pm
NYC man wanted for 'hate crime' of defecating on Pride flag



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On Monday, the New York Police Department posted on Twitter that they are looking for a man who defecated on a pride flag and he is wanted for committing a hate crime because of the incident.

The New York Post reports that the incident happened at a tapas bar on the city's Upper West Side on April 15 and that video show's the man grabbing one of the restaurant's two pride flags, placing it on a chair, discharging his feces and then drawing a smiley face in the pile. He then reportedly grabbed the restaurant's second flag and wiped himself.

According to the official New York state website a hate crime is committed if a victim has been targeted "because of a perception or belief about their race, color, national origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation, or when such an act is committed as a result of that type of perception or belief. These crimes can target an individual, a group of individuals or public or private property."

Concerning private property crimes, "hanging a noose or painting a swastika could be deemed hate crimes," according to the website.

The official website for the city of New York clarifies that "sexual orientation" includes "gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender."

The 34-year-old general manager of Buceo 95's, where the incident took place, Nathan Nolen Edwards, said that he was a homosexual and that the establishment had a "very inclusive, largely LGBTQ+-identifying staff," including professional drag queens.

Edwards said, "It's definitely a punch to the gut. We certainly haven’t experienced anything to this degree. A defecation on a pride flag is not the norm here."

Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68871 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
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because of a perception or belief about their race, color, national origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation,


Why do I feel like this is EXTREMELY selectively enforced?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79515 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
Shitting on a pride flag is a hate crime, but burning the American flag is free speech.

Clown. World.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
37632 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
I don’t think defecating on any flag should be a hate crime.

That being said, this dude is stupid and trash. Not my hero.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6942 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
This guy really was on another level. Making the smiley face was a nice touch.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51562 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
How the frick is shitting on a flag a hate crime?
Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1074 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:50 pm to
Free speech. We can burn a flag still cant we?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:52 pm to
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That being said, this dude is stupid and trash. Not my hero.


interesting
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
4146 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:53 pm to
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" A defecation on a pride flag is not the norm here."



We're more of a defecation on the dick kind of establishment
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175634 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

interesting


I mean, is this not common sense?

I imagine we would approach 100% affirmative responses if you asked the board if it's trashy to shite on a chair outside of a restaurant. Adding a flag to the equation doesn't make it any less trashy
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
37632 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:56 pm to
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interesting


Is it?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:57 pm to
my point was i feel the same way about him, as a poster. sorry for confusion.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51562 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

I imagine we would approach 100% affirmative responses if you asked the board if it's trashy to shite on a chair outside of a restaurant. Adding a flag to the equation doesn't make it any less trashy

It's trashy and stupid but a hate crime seems to be a massive stretch. Vandalism, destruction of property I could understand
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:59 pm to
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It's trashy and stupid but a hate crime seems to be a massive stretch. Vandalism, destruction of property I could understand


I don't think hate crimes should exist, so I have no issue with that. I was commenting purely on the "stupid and trashy" angle
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51562 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:07 pm to
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I don't think hate crimes should exist

I agree. I don't really care why you did it
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
37632 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I imagine we would approach 100% affirmative responses if you asked the board if it's trashy to shite on a chair outside of a restaurant.


To most of the board, they would need to know if the shitter was a Republican or democrat before determining if it’s trashy or not.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1477 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:13 pm to
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According to the official New York state website a hate crime is committed if a victim has been targeted "because of a perception or belief about their race, color, national origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation


So sounds like it would have been a hate crime even if he did this to a Texas A&M flag
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:14 pm to
It’s incredibly weird and messed up how sexual stuff is celebrated the way it is.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27772 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:14 pm to
Soo, you can burn the American flag and piss on it but you can't shite on a Pride flag?

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