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Does BCS have to take SEC champ and runner-up?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:07 pm
Or would they skip over SEC-east champ (assuming LSU wins out) and send SEC runner-up to a non-BCS bowl? Remember, only 2 BCS slots max per conference.
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:08 pm to acrijk
Conference champ is the only one guaranteed a BCS spot. Also, the top 4 are guaranteed. So if BAMA is in the top 4, they get a bid.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:09 pm to acrijk
If LSU wins out, they play in the national title game. Alabama would likely be the other BCS team from the SEC and play in the national title or the Sugar Bowl. In that case there is no third team.
In chaos, there can be three teams. LSU has a HUGE lead in the BCS. If, LSU lost to a UGA team close, and it left LSU and BAMA 1-2, they would play for the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl.
In chaos, there can be three teams. LSU has a HUGE lead in the BCS. If, LSU lost to a UGA team close, and it left LSU and BAMA 1-2, they would play for the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:09 pm to acrijk
It's happened many times before. Last year Auburn was in NC game and Arkansas went to the Sugar. USC was in the Chick-fil-A I believe.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:10 pm to WavinWilly
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Also, the top 4 are guaranteed.
That's not true if there are 3 in the same conference. I can think of a scenario where LSU ends up number 4 in the BCS and 3rd in the conference.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:11 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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I can think of a scenario where LSU ends up number 4 in the BCS and 3rd in the conference.
If we lose to Arkansas and they vault, we go to the Capital One Bowl at 11-1 and top 4!!!!
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:12 pm to acrijk
BCS takes the 1 and 2 ranked teams, and takes the conference champ that is not ranked 1 or 2. So there is one unlikely scenario in which the SEC could get 3 teams automatically in BCS bowl games.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:13 pm to acrijk
Can't you remember back to lst season? Did S Carolina play in a BCS bowl?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:17 pm to KCinDC
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there is one unlikely scenario in which the SEC could get 3 teams automatically in BCS bowl games.
There is no scenario that allows the SEC to have 3 teams in BCS bowls. If 3 teams finish in the top 4, the one that is ranked lowest is no longer guaranteed a spot. In fact, they'd automatically be disqualified from a spot.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:20 pm to medtiger
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There is no scenario that allows the SEC to have 3 teams in BCS bowls. If 3 teams finish in the top 4, the one that is ranked lowest is no longer guaranteed a spot. In fact, they'd automatically be disqualified from a spot.
Please stop it. This is wrong. It was just mentioned by Brad Edwards who basically runs the computers. If LSU and BAMA finish 1-2, but UGA wins the SEC title game, then LSU and BAMA would play in the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:24 pm to rpg37
That's a ridiculous scenario that would never happen. There's no way that 2 teams who didn't win their conference are going to play for a BCS title. But, I guess it's a "possibility," so I'm wrong.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:29 pm to medtiger
That's the only way it could possibly happen. But if LSU loses to Arkansas, we would likely be number 4 and going to the Capital One.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:31 pm to medtiger
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That's a ridiculous scenario that would never happen
If Oregon beats Stanford AND OU beats OSU, then it is very possible. LSU's lead in the BCS at that point would be among the biggest ever. Alabama would be No. 2 and UGA would be around 10. If UGA beat LSU in a home game, LSU would not fall too far down. They would NOT fall behind Oregon or Boise St.
All these are unlikely. I believe we will play Stanford for the title. But I am wrong quite often. But, none of those things would be world-changing upsets...
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:40 pm to rpg37
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If Oregon beats Stanford AND OU beats OSU, then it is very possible. LSU's lead in the BCS at that point would be among the biggest ever. Alabama would be No. 2 and UGA would be around 10. If UGA beat LSU in a home game, LSU would not fall too far down. They would NOT fall behind Oregon or Boise St.
I think that one of LSU or Alabama would end up in the BCS title game in this scenario, but not both. If LSU has a huge lead in the BCS (like OU had in 2003) then loses to UGA, they may still have enough computer strength to over come being ranked #3 in the polls. I just don't see any way that the voters let Bama be their opponent in this scenario. They'd bump a 1-loss Pac 12 or Big 12 champ into the game instead.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:45 pm to acrijk
The BCS will never take three teams from the same conference. It's prohibited. If two teams from the same conference go to the BCSNCG, then no other teams from that conference will go to a BCS bowl, even if they're in the top 4, which are usually guaranteed BCS bowl appearances.
In the event that a BCS bowl's conference champion tie-in is sent to the BCSNCG, then I THINK that bowl can replace that champion with an at-large team of their own choosing. I may be off on that one, but I think that's how it reads. They don't force the bowl to take conference runners-up if there is a more attractive team
available to invite.
EDIT : Yeah, I completely didn't know that the 2 teams per conference rule has an UNLESS section that says if #1 and #2 are in a conference, but aren't champion, the champion goes to the tie-in bowl, and the #1 and #2 go to the BCSNCG.
In the event that a BCS bowl's conference champion tie-in is sent to the BCSNCG, then I THINK that bowl can replace that champion with an at-large team of their own choosing. I may be off on that one, but I think that's how it reads. They don't force the bowl to take conference runners-up if there is a more attractive team
available to invite.
EDIT : Yeah, I completely didn't know that the 2 teams per conference rule has an UNLESS section that says if #1 and #2 are in a conference, but aren't champion, the champion goes to the tie-in bowl, and the #1 and #2 go to the BCSNCG.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:49 pm to rpg37
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In chaos, there can be three teams. LSU has a HUGE lead in the BCS. If, LSU lost to a UGA team close, and it left LSU and BAMA 1-2, they would play for the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl
Hmm.
Would this mean that the 1 and 3 teams would match up in the natty, SEC champ from the east going to the sugar (since they won the SEC champ game) while the number 2 team gets shut out???
Scratches head.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:56 pm to tiger1014
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In chaos, there can be three teams. LSU has a HUGE lead in the BCS. If, LSU lost to a UGA team close, and it left LSU and BAMA 1-2, they would play for the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl
Hmm.
Would this mean that the 1 and 3 teams would match up in the natty, SEC champ from the east going to the sugar (since they won the SEC champ game) while the number 2 team gets shut out???
Scratches head.
I'm almost positive the BCS cannot take more than two teams from the same conference. If LSU and Bama somehow end up #1/#2 and go to the BCSNCG, then the rest of the SEC are not eligible for BCS bowls. Also, when the SEC champ goes to the BCSNCG, I think the Sugar Bowl replaces the champ with an at-large team of their choosing. So, even if only LSU as the conference champion gets to the BCSNCG, then the Sugar Bowl would get to pick two at-large teams, though they almost assuredly would take Bama.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:59 pm to tiger1014
Didn't slive and the SEC introduce something that would allow more than 2 teams from a conference BCS bids?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:01 pm to acrijk
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Didn't slive and the SEC introduce something that would allow more than 2 teams from a conference BCS bids?
Ya but that was never changed yet.
Not sure if it will be.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:02 pm to rpg37
I wish some people would stop posting and confusing people. It is unlikely as heck, but YES, three teams can play in the BCS from the same conference. See below.
If you don't know, stop posting. THIS IS CORRECT. PROVE ME WRONG OTHERWISE. If so, I will drive to Bristol, CT, myself and have them rebuke it on national tv for TD.com.
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It was just mentioned by Brad Edwards who basically runs the computers. If LSU and BAMA finish 1-2, but UGA wins the SEC title game, then LSU and BAMA would play in the national title and UGA would play in the Sugar Bowl.
If you don't know, stop posting. THIS IS CORRECT. PROVE ME WRONG OTHERWISE. If so, I will drive to Bristol, CT, myself and have them rebuke it on national tv for TD.com.
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