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re: Why would NC State ever leave the ACC for the SEC?

Posted on 9/22/11 at 10:37 am to
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 10:37 am to
12 - 0 FSU or VT isnt in the BCS title game?
Posted by LawC
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 10:41 am to
if you go undefeated in any BCS conference (minus Big East, but they won't be BCS status much longer) odds are that you'll play for a national championship, its very rare to have 3 undefeated BCS teams, auburn 04 is the only exception
Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 10:49 am to
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if you go undefeated in any BCS conference (minus Big East, but they won't be BCS status much longer) odds are that you'll play for a national championship, its very rare to have 3 undefeated BCS teams, auburn 04 is the only exception


you can't assume the path to the BCS Championship will stay the same. the BCS system will change completely w/ 4 Superconferences.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 10:56 am to
I thought you meant "if you are undefeated in ACC conference games..."

that wouldn't guarantee you anything except a BCS berth.

If there are undefeated teams in the SEC, Big Ten and ACC, who do you think is getting into the big game?

By the way, overhead pics of recent ACC championship games further help my argument...
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 10:57 am
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31823 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:00 am to
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you can't assume the path to the BCS Championship will stay the same. the BCS system will change completely w/ 4 Superconferences.

while this is very true, we arent there yet. with the PAC staying at 12 we will still have 5-6 BCS conferences for a while longer.

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I thought you meant "if you are undefeated in ACC conference games..."


ahh hell man
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If there are undefeated teams in the SEC, Big Ten and ACC, who do you think is getting into the big game?

so giving this year as an example, it would have been LSU/Bama, Wisky, and FSU.
i think the LSU/Bama winner and FSU would be your 2 teams in the title game, as FSU would have beaten OU which would be a better OOC win than anything Wisky is going to do this year.

ill grant you that its highly debatable. you'll have to grant me that 3 separate undefeated teams from BCS leagues is a longshot, certainly not the norm.
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:04 am to
I looked at the NCSU scout forum and the younger Pack fans would love the opportunity to play football in the SEC and separate themselves from UNC. The problem they saw is the old guard NCSU supporters are basketball first and that is ACC.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:12 am to
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also NCSU has always been the little brother to UNC, joing the SEC would be very advantageous to them because they would immediately start recruiting better in the state of NC and would probably eventually become a better football program than UNC, which would be their dream come true

This. They are in the same situation as A&M without the revenue issue.
Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
1383 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:15 am to
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I looked at the NCSU scout forum and the younger Pack fans would love the opportunity to play football in the SEC and separate themselves from UNC. The problem they saw is the old guard NCSU supporters are basketball first and that is ACC.



NCSU shares a Board of Regents w/ UNC, so there are some significant politics that would have to be overcome to decouple the schools. NCSU wants to be a basketball school w/ Duke and UNC. the fans that want the SEC and football don't carry a lot of weight.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:24 pm to
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this makes some sense, since neither of those schools would add a considerable amount of viewers and it would water down each schools piece of the new tv contract, which is due to be re-worked next year or so.

ETA: it would be pretty stupid for the ACC to take those two teams and watch FSU walk, so I'll take that as a sign that the ACC is staying at 14


Maybe this lull with the PAC 12 and the SEC being slow to come up with a 14th (much less a 16th) will convince leagues to start considering 14 teams as the end game instead of 16. 14 teams done right is about as far as a conference can go without really throwing schedules into chaos. I'm hoping the SEC and ACC stick at 14 teams thereby increasing the probability that 14 becomes the magic number instead of these dreadful 16 team conferences.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:38 pm to
If, as some suggest, that expansion is all about expanding the TV footprint, it probably makes as much or more sense to take a team from North Carolina...an NFL size TV market...as it does anyone else in the ACC.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2329 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:53 pm to
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If, as some suggest, that expansion is all about expanding the TV footprint, it probably makes as much or more sense to take a team from North Carolina...an NFL size TV market...as it does anyone else in the ACC.


Definitely, it is a growing state. Getting into Virginia & North Carolina should be the end game on the eastern front.
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