re: why MO over WVU

I agree WVU makes the product stronger. I would think A&M brings enough of a financial coup that we wouldn't let Mizzou's population (which couldn't care less about SEC football) be the deciding factor.

If the population of Missouri is making or breaking us expanding then we shouldn't be expanding.

I also don't like offering a school that would rather be in the B1G over one that would rather be in the SEC. It's selling your soul-ish.

I'm just saying that Kentucky would have had the same amount of success that wvu had. And one thing a lot of people forget is that good teams can't always have good records especially in the sec. I just can't see wvu being consistently better or as good as Tennessee, uga, usce, and obviously uf. The odds are just stacked against them in an enormous way.

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They seat 71k and are sold out.

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Fwiw, they averaged 61k last year. They've only reached 70k three times since 1983. And other than a few years with Corby Jones and then Chase Daniel, I never remember them being that competitive.

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You clearly were not around when Arky and SC joined the league. While we may all make fun of both of them for their lack of football success in actually winning the conference, they both have won NCAA sanctioned National Championships in other sports while being SEC Members.

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Fair point, but Mizzou only has 2 team national championships in all sports, the last coming in 1965.

I'm not wholeheartedly against Mizzou joining, but let's not pretend they have some elite athletic program that's an automatic slam dunk over WVU or anyone else.

Kind of like Kentucky minus March.

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busey

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our proposed hillbilly hoedown in cinncy needs to happen

Good one. I'm not against mizzou but they're the poster child for a nameless faceless program (football or basketball). They're a college team in a pro sports state. A big10 team at heart in the big 12. They've had some great years but you have to remind people. When I think of mizzou nothing comes to mind.

I agree. I would rather a home and home though.

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You call Al, I'll call Jesco

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and we will have Bill O host, him and Al are boys

Wvu will be in the sec also eventually just a matter of time

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Is Mizzou some LSU crazed fans school? In football no, not now.

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The business of the SEC (and the reason for crazed LSU and Bama and UGA and UF and Arky and SC and Tennessee and UK and Auburn and Ole Miss and Cowbell MSU and even Vandy)is football. So come off your high horse pal, I've been around probably a lot longer than you can count.

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You clearly were not around when Arky and SC joined the league.

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I was around when GA Tech and Tulane left the league. I was around for Billy Cannon's run. I was around when LSU beat Arky (SWC) in the Cotton Bowl, 14-7, and broke their longest win streak in the nation and #2 ranking. I was around when LSU went up to South Bend and lost a great 3-0 game to Notre Dame and went up in the next week's rankings. I was around for the great and frustrating (for LSU fans) Bear Bryant years at Alabama. So please don't lecture me about what SEC football is about, or what the "institution" means. I don't care if it's 12, 14, or 16 teams. What I care about is the degree of football tradition and passion the newbies bring in. Oh, and BTW, both Arky and USC brought in their own rabid fan bases, even if you and your effete cronies made fun of them back then. I'm personally very glad both teams are in the SEC. I would have been very glad to welcome WVU and hope to still be able to do so. I just don't see Mizzou or the State of Missouri as a whole to be the kind of passionate football fanbase or program that has made the SEC the #1 brand in the college football world. I hope to be proven wrong if they get the invite.