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re: Why are people ripping on Texas?

Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:45 am to
Are you really that delusional? Florida would have wiped the floor with USC and UT. 2 seconds away from #1 is funny considering that was the most idiotic defensive play I have ever seen. As far as drafted players and USC, USC had the most drafted players of any school last year and they lost 5 games. Does that mean they should have played for a national championship? Your analogies are just plain dumb!



Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:48 am to
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I really don't think thats a tradition.


That's Texas, doing what Texas does best. Resting on their accolades, even if they are 40-50 years ago.

Vince Young was the only reason they won their recent title. Other than that, the 'Horns are a decent team, just not a great one.

Posted by TSipper
Zona
Member since Jun 2004
126 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:50 am to
Do you any of you watch football beyond LSU?

That Florida team got beat in the Swamp by Ole Miss with one of our cast offs at QB, and you think that team would have wiped the floor with us? Unbelievable.

I said that I thought USC and Texas were the two best teams in America in 2008.

By the way, the QBs from the '08 USC and Texas teams are both starting in the NFL. Last I checked, the Florida QB from '08 is some glorified 3rd teamer...or 4th teamer depending on what you read.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34758 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:54 am to
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That Florida team got beat in the Swamp by Ole Miss with one of our cast offs at QB, and you think that team would have wiped the floor with us? Unbelievable


That Ole Miss team beat Texas Tech. Something yall couldnt do. Ended up in the top 15.

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NFL. Last I checked, the Florida QB from '08 is some glorified 3rd teamer...or 4th teamer depending on what you read.




NFL does not equal NCAA. I cant stand Tim Tebow. Im the chairman of the Tim Tebow hater fan club. He is the best college qb to play the game.
Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:55 am to
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By the way, the QBs from the '08 USC and Texas teams are both starting in the NFL. Last I checked, the Florida QB from '08 is some glorified 3rd teamer...or 4th teamer depending on what you read.

Once again your analogies are just plain dumb!


Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:57 am to
By the way, how is Vince "I suck at life" Young doing these days?
Posted by TSipper
Zona
Member since Jun 2004
126 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:02 am to
VY is 30-17 as an NFL starter, quite a bit better than the high-flying trio of Matt Mauck-JaMarcus Russell-Matt Flynn.

Speaking of JaMarcus, is still sippin' syrup somewhere in the swamps of Louisiana?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75750 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:05 am to
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Speaking of JaMarcus, is still sippin' syrup somewhere in the swamps of Louisiana?


Brady Quinn is on an NFL roster. JR isn't. Therefore, we apparently have to go back and change the result of the Sugar Bowl.
Posted by Gunner
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
628 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:05 am to
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TSipper

Credibility FAIL!
Posted by TulsaTimeTiger
Edmond, OK
Member since Dec 2003
1099 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:07 am to
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By the way, how is Vince "I suck at life" Young doing these days?


Well at least he helped bring down the myth about those "3-peat" Trojans!
Posted by LoyalTiger
Member since Feb 2007
1498 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:10 am to
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the better analogy is "would you be willing to let 25% of the other workers at your company get fired so you could make 25% more?"


OUCH!!!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60011 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 10:22 am to
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It is capitalism and I love it.


Texas is part of a conference partnership and it seems quite clear they do not play well with others. Its not just about them making more money, LSU and Alabama make way more money than Miss State, Arky and Vandy.

They want to act like and Indy while getting the benefits of being in a conference, sorry, world doesn't work that way.
Posted by TSipper
Zona
Member since Jun 2004
126 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:16 am to
H-Town Tiger, is that Texas's fault or Aggy's?

Tier-3 Revenues for 2009-2010:

1 University of North Carolina $11,171,458.00
2 University of Alabama $8,444,674.00
3 University of Kentucky $7,743,327.00
4 University of Florida $7,450,000.00
5 University of Kansas $7,276,988.00
6 Louisiana State University $7,012,730.00
7 Oklahoma State University $6,395,000.00
8 University of Tennessee $6,293,621.00
9 Oregon State University $6,267,671.00
10 University of Georgia $6,231,392.00

Big 12

University of Kansas $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University $2,608,896.00
University of Texas $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma $317,361.00
University of Colorado $155,528.00
Texas Tech University $0.00
Texas A&M University $0.00

It's clear that we (Texas) were trying to correct our mistake with tier 3 broadcasting revenues.

Why wasn't A&M? A&M's economic butt hurt is of it's own making.

Is A&M expecting LSU and Alabama and Kentucky to share their Tier-3 revenues evenly with them? Is LSU, Kentucky and Alabama going to do that? If not, why not?

If it's all about conference unity, surely TV revenues will be split 100% evenly in the new SEC going forth, correct?

{edit: here is the link for the data: LINK / }
This post was edited on 9/16/11 at 11:17 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60011 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:47 am to
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H-Town Tiger, is that Texas's fault or Aggy's?


everything with the Texas fans becomes finger pointing and rationalizing.

Beyond just the revenue sharing, Texas clearly has a lot of pull in he big 12 and always been willing to use. This has ticked people off. Do you see people leaving the SEC because of Alabama? The B1G because of Michigan? No.

Deny all you want. Say its not your fault A&M doesn't have 3rd tier revenue or others voted for unequal revenue sharing blah, blah, blah

Arkansas, Nebraska, Colorado and now A&M and even OU are saying they are sick of dealing with Texas. At some point, maybe you have to reconsider how you treat your business partners.
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
3506 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 11:52 am to
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Beyond just the revenue sharing, Texas clearly has a lot of pull in he big 12 and always been willing to use.


So, you are saying there are reason's other than a third tier television network that has upset the A&M faithful? It's not like the Big 12 championship game is played in Austin every year. People are far too sensitive.

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Say its not your fault A&M doesn't have 3rd tier revenue or others voted for unequal revenue sharing


You don't like facts?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60011 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 12:01 pm to
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So, you are saying there are reason's other than a third tier television network that has upset the A&M faithful?


Who care's what upsets the A&M faithful? Its not just Aggies that have said UT is difficult to deal with. You guys need to stop looking at the conference expansion stuff from the point of view of fans and recent football records.

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You don't like facts


What the hell does this even mean? Clearly my comments sailed right over your head. A&M is not leaving because they had no of very little 3rd tier rights. Its clear from comments by several schools that Texas is difficult to deal with. Make all the excuses you want, pull out facts all day, it won't change the fact that no other school has as many different other schools questioning how they operate with in a conference. But Texas has done nothing wrong, everyone else just has butt hurt
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
3506 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 12:12 pm to
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But Texas has done nothing wrong, everyone else just has butt hurt


I agree.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 12:28 pm to
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They want to act like and Indy while getting the benefits of being in a conference, sorry, world doesn't work that way


If the other conference schools, including A&M, voted that teams had complete control of their own 3rd tier rights, how is that acting like an independent?

Why are you holding Texas responsible for how A&M voted?
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 1:34 pm to
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Why are people ripping on Texas?


Because they suck.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 9/16/11 at 1:40 pm to
I think the other Big 12 schools' contention with texas lies in the fact that they continue to push the envelope to gain an advantage. I get it, the Big 12 was unequal in revenue sharing from the beginning. It was also supposed to be a conference at the end of the day. That means that after a while, you have to stop and consider whether your actions as an institution, even if they put you in a better position than before, undermine other members of your conference to the point that they no longer view you as a viable (or worse, trusted) business partner. In short, do the ends justify the means?

To texas, they did--hence the departures of CU, NU, and A&M.
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