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re: West Virginia? Missouri? I'll pass

Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

does the acc want to go to 16?


I think they just want to be one of the 4 conferences left, and if the SEC and Pac12 are going to 16 they won't want to be left out.

There have been rumors in Atlanta of GT being invited to the Big10 since we're AAU
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

your point is what? This shows interest, fanbase, etc.

in a very, very small population center

people pimp missouri for the st louis/kc markets close to missouri....those markets give a frick about CFB

missouri adds nothing

quote:

W/ 6 mill peeps in MO

and like 75k caring about CFB


quote:

nothing to lose

uh...share of the tv contract and the opportunity cost of not adding a better companion?

do you want to be stuck with missouri in perpetuity?
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4121 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:59 pm to
You are FOS.
If it was up to me . . .dont add TAMU. But since we're expanding, the best option out there is MU.

Your telling me that out of 6 million people, less Columbia, which is 5,850,000 people to be exact, that only 75k watch MU football when on TV?

Flawed logic
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

the best option out there is MU.

frick that

SMU is better than missouri (TCU if they can get out of the big east deal)

Houston or Rice is better than Missouri, too

quote:

Your telling me that out of 6 million people, less Columbia, which is 5,850,000 people to be exact, that only 75k watch MU football when on TV?

if Missouri had a bigger fan base that supported the program, they'd be pulling in a lot more revenue than they are

there is a reason they're in the lower tier of the Big12 revenue

adding a market means nothing if people in that market don't watch CFB
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:09 pm to
TCU would be a good university if they weren't a religious based university.

There are no religious universities in the SEC as of now, so why add one?
Posted by TigerMattSTL
O'Fallon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1105 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

if Missouri had a bigger fan base that supported the program, they'd be pulling in a lot more revenue than they are

there is a reason they're in the lower tier of the Big12 revenue

adding a market means nothing if people in that market don't watch CFB


May I remind you Mizzou's football revenue is higher than Stanford's?
Posted by TigerMattSTL
O'Fallon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1105 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:58 pm to
Per Forbes

University of Missouri $25,378,066.00
Stanford Univ $21,309,949.00
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

May I remind you Mizzou's football revenue is higher than Stanford's?

and namoi watts is hotter than my mom

now, i don't know what that has to do with this conversation, either
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

and namoi watts is hotter than my mom



SFP snappin necks, and cashin checks.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:00 pm to
With all the acc teams out of the equation, or so it seems at this point, I just don't know who to go with.

Starting to think we add A&M and then slow it down and see what happens.
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:06 pm to
there isn't much too choose from, or so it seems. what sfp can't grasp, when throwing out rice, houston, and smu is that with a&m's acceptance...that rules out adding any new members from texas (according to Slive's own new members not being from a current footprint rule).
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4121 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:10 pm to
Agreed. Sfp doesn't understand!

Who would want to add Houston, SMU, etc?
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Who would to add TCU, SMU


slow would.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:19 pm to
Speaking only from a football perspective I would rather TCU over WV as well.
Posted by TigerMattSTL
O'Fallon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1105 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 4:42 am to
quote:

and namoi watts is hotter than my mom

now, i don't know what that has to do with this conversation, either


Look under your avatar "Stanford fan".
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 6:59 am to
quote:

why are we not including OU?


I think OU would be a good add with A&M. Both sides, SEC and OU, have been silent on this. I like the strength they bring. Prefer not to dumb this conference down by adding weak teams.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:43 am to
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Who would want to add Houston, SMU, etc?


Houston has about as much potential as WV and it seals off the SETX corridor. WV adds nothing except another mouth to feed and a mediocre program

SMU = dallas. with some monetary infusion, they would likely end up on the Houston/WV level. the SEC gets a bigger footprint in the dallas market. SMU is also a good academic school

why don't you want to add SMU? what is so much better about WV or Missouri?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Look under your avatar "Stanford fan".

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 9:03 am to
quote:

SMU = dallas. with some monetary infusion, they would likely end up on the Houston/WV level. the SEC gets a bigger footprint in the dallas market. SMU is also a good academic school

There is no possible way you actually believe this. SMU will not get that level. And hell, I don't think Houston is really on WVU's level.

WVU is a traditional mid-level football power on the level of a South Carolina. They aren't a "mouth to feed" on the level of the Mississippi schools.

And the idea Mizzou brings nothing is basically arguing there is no reason to expand at all to anyone. They are one of the best schools available.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 9:14 am to
quote:

And hell, I don't think Houston is really on WVU's level.

can be. they're not now

quote:

WVU is a traditional mid-level football power on the level of a South Carolina. They aren't a "mouth to feed" on the level of the Mississippi schools.

it's only slightly better. i just have no idea why we'd try to add them when they bring so little (geography, market, football)

quote:

And the idea Mizzou brings nothing is basically arguing there is no reason to expand at all to anyone.

not true. we just have to wait to see who we can get. best available RIGHT NOW? sure

so yes, i am arguing against expansion unless we can find a school that brings something. if a Florida State opens up? they bring something. if a North Carolina opens up? they bring something

if we're just adding a school to get to 14, we need to go cheap and solidify ourselves somewhere that will help the SEC get good football players into the conference
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