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re: we gotta stop this permanent rivalry shite
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:02 pm to ACT
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:02 pm to ACT
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There is no reason to complicate the schedule further and harm the OOC schedule on the basis of teams that have no tradition bitching..
Holy shite. How does this idea COMPLICATE the schedules? You truely are a frickin gump.
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Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:05 pm to ACT
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We aren't talking about a rivalry that dates back 110 years
Ofcourse not, we're not currently discussing specific teams whatsoever. If you read the thread you will see we're talking about the possibility of this being done.
The example absolutely fits, and the SEC Bylaws, which have also been linked, agree with us as well.
Bottom line is you could do it if you wanted to. There hasn't been a single post that can actually dispute that fact.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:07 pm to Daigeaux
It's senseless. It takes away a game that can be used to schedule legit OOC opponents that aid in recruiting.
Think outside the box a little.
Think outside the box a little.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:07 pm to MOT
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MOT
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:09 pm to MOT
I'm not disputing the fact that it can't be done, I'm saying there is no reason for it to be done..the other guy was the one confused. The thread is about ending permanent rivalries..when there is no reason to.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:12 pm to ACT
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It's senseless. It takes away a game that can be used to schedule legit OOC opponents that aid in recruiting
So playing someone like North Texas and Kent State would be more important than keeping this rivalry going? Fascinating.
Would you no longer be rivals if you didn't play every year? Are rivalries only about having an annual game?
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:15 pm to MOT
If you had to play a 9th SEC team, would you want to schedule an Oregon, Michigan, or USC? That's where it gets complicated.
What is so difficult to understand about maintaining some sense of tradition?
What is so difficult to understand about maintaining some sense of tradition?
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:20 pm to ACT
Uh...if it can be done, then this would be the answer to YOUR so important annual rivalry with UT.
So what you're saying is that you don't really give a rats arse about whats best for the other schools in the conference, yet, we are all supposed to give a flying frick about your rivalry game. Gottcha...
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I'm saying there is no reason for it to be done..the other guy was the one confused. The thread is about ending permanent rivalries..when there is no reason to.
So what you're saying is that you don't really give a rats arse about whats best for the other schools in the conference, yet, we are all supposed to give a flying frick about your rivalry game. Gottcha...
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:22 pm to Daigeaux
scheduling a conference opponent as an OOC game happens all the time in baseball and basketball. Not really anything out of the box here. it is an option for butthurt bammer fans.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:23 pm to ACT
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If you had to play a 9th SEC team, would you want to schedule an Oregon, Michigan, or USC? That's where it gets complicated.
Now, that would be your choice now, wouldn't it? If that rivalry is THAT important to you, then it would seem to be a no brainer. It would for me....
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:26 pm to ACT
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What is so difficult to understand about maintaining some sense of tradition
Thats where we differ, and thats where the discussion gets sidetracked. Nobody is saying you can't keep your tradition, everyone is saying your tradition in its current state hamstrings the rest of the conference from having a sensible scheduling format. You have other alternatives to keep the tradition alive.
I would also like to see an answer to the previous questions if possible. What makes a rivalry? Would you no longer be rivals if you weren't forced to play every year? Is playing every year for a long time what makes it a "tradition"?
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:29 pm to Daigeaux
Don't expect you to get it, you never will. If you had tradition to fall back on you could understand, but you don't. For LSU, football has only mattered for a decade or so. Now that you feel important, you want to destroy everything that made the SEC great. Color me surprised.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:34 pm to ACT
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Don't expect you to get it, you never will. If you had tradition to fall back on you could understand, but you don't. For LSU, football has only mattered for a decade or so. Now that you feel important, you want to destroy everything that made the SEC great. Color me surprised.
And there is the typical Alabamtard coming out in you. So much for a logical discussion/debate.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:39 pm to MOT
quote:Rivalry is history, hatred, family, friends, bragging rights, etc. Tennessee as a rival is on the basis of a long history of hate between the two, and it would lose it's luster to many if it was no longer a conference game. The idea that the game could keep one from achieving an SEC championship keeps it strong. That's the gist of it.
What makes a rivalry?
Tradition is having it on the 3rd Saturday of October(most years) for 92 games. It's victory cigars in the locker room. It's Rammer Jammer, Rocky Top, etc. It's playing a game in conference between 2 of the winningest programs of all time.
It's one of the reasons the SEC is as great as it is today. The hatred, the love for football, the desire to be the best has created interest and shown passion that has spread beyond the conference.
Tradition is the reason we can have this argument tonight. So just because the winds of change are upon us is no reason to throw it all away when accomodations can be made to keep some things the way they should be.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:40 pm to MOT
quote:That wasn't directed at you, I'm enjoying the debate with you. That was directed at someone hopping on the "gump" bandwagon.
MOT
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:50 pm to ACT
Note to Gumps...nobody else gives a crap about your traditions. It's all relative.
I'm 100% certain that the earth will still rotate in it's axis and the sun will come up in the morning whether Bama plays UT every year or not.
Get over it...you're not that important.
Y'all are legends in your own mind...only.
I'm 100% certain that the earth will still rotate in it's axis and the sun will come up in the morning whether Bama plays UT every year or not.
Get over it...you're not that important.
Y'all are legends in your own mind...only.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:52 pm to pvilleguru
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Spoken like someone who truly doesn't have a rival.
So the majority suffers for the sake of the minority? Gee, I can't imagine while people would get perturbed.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:52 pm to TigerCorp
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I'm 100% certain that the earth will still rotate in it's axis and the sun will come up in the morning whether Bama plays UT every year or not.
Is the earth going to spin off its axis if permanent rivalries are continued?
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:53 pm to darkstarr_drgga
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So the majority suffers for the sake of the minority? Gee, I can't imagine while people would get perturbed.
Must have missed this suffering.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 8:53 pm to ACT
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Tradition is the reason we can have this argument tonight. So just because the winds of change are upon us is no reason to throw it all away when accomodations can be made to keep some things the way they should be.
So will you be okay with it if the accomodation that is made is to have 9 SEC games? Not bagging on you...serious question. My preference is 8 games, no permanent opponents, but I respect and appreciate tradition, so I can handle 9 conference games. But 8 games and a permanent opponent is the least attractive option out there.
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