re: Texas Suddenly Willing To "Share" the LHN

Kentucky fans would love their own network so they could watch UK basketball 24/7 but it's not in the best interest of the conference and we get more than enough exposure as it is.

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all this leads us to realize is that ESPN is more responsible for what is happening to the Big 9/10/12 than Texas.

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BS all ESPN did was recognize a flea it could sleep with.

One reason that socialism doesn't work is because as soon as a worker figures out that no matter how hard he works he still get paid the same as the slacker next to him, he will decide that he might as well be a slacker. Even though Vandy gets the same conference share of revenue as Florida, there are still many benefits to each university that finishes on top. The total revenue produced by Florida athletics dwarfs that of Vandy. The "want" to win has not been removed from the equation.

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if it worked just fine, why is everyone so hot to get out of the league?

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Nebraska - lots of issues; partial qualifiers, rest of conf voting against them on every issue

Colorado - terrified of being left out of a BCS conference if Big 12 imploded

A&M - felt massive outlay for LHN permanently relegated them to a lower tier status

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same old Texas passing the buck mentality.

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How is saying that Texas wants to maximize its revenue potential, just like everyone else, "passing the buck"?

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You also don't see schools like Ohio State, Florida or Bama trying to start their own network and then claiming anyone that didn't like it was just jealous or would do the same thing

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Last summer, Byrne was fine with the LHN:

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capitalism. i find a hard time faulting texas since our country at its core is based on similar principles (for right or wrong).

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When A&M accepted $7 million more in tv rev last summer than 70% of the conference, capitalism was fine. When ESPN threw all of that $ at Texas, capitalism became horrible.

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Its a very short sighted view what Texas is doing. Being in a strong conference has benefits.

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With one phone call, even with the LHN, Texas could be in the Pac 12, Big 10 or SEC.

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Equal partnerships are a capitalist business business model. They are even detailed in a Commerce Code.

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Does Florida share its tier 3 revenue equally with the SEC?

Anyway back to Texas, they are wanting the benefit of being in a conference while acting like an Independent. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Sure Bama and LSU could demand a larger share of TV money, but by splitting it equally, it helps schools like So Car and Miss State field competitive teams. That benefits LSU and Bama more than a few more dollars from CBS. You put 9, 10 teams in bowls, 2 teamd in BCS bowls, that's more for every one. Auburn could probably have lost to Bama and still been in the BCS CG over TCU because of the strength of the SEC. USC was shut out of the BCS CG in 07 and 08 because of a weak conference hurting their SOS. They say its not our fault the other teams in our conference suck but if you are insisting on taking a larger share of TV money because LA is a bigger market than Oregon or Washington, than, yeah, it is partly your fault. (please note, I don't know if the PAC 10 TV deals are like the Big xii-iii).

In 2009 Texas was damn close to being left out of the CCG as it was, but with a Big East, a no name BE team no less and 2 Non AQ's behind them, they got in. If A decent ACC team like VT or FSU or B1G team had been where Cincinnati was, Texas would have been out, and no doubt whining and crying like they did in 2008. So good ahead and put all your games on the LHN, no one but UT fans will get to see them. The exposure teams like LSU Bama etc get from being on CBS or ESPN every week more than makes up for whatever extra they could get, but don't because its split evenly with Vandy and UK.

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Nebraska - lots of issues; partial qualifiers, rest of conf voting against them on every issue

Colorado - terrified of being left out of a BCS conference if Big 12 imploded

A&M - felt massive outlay for LHN permanently relegated them to a lower tier status

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I agree with Colorado wanting to find a stable situation. Why were they worried about the Big 12 imploding though?

I think the Nebraska and aTm comments are silly though. The comment about the LHN is especially silly. I'm in Houston and whether you're listening to the radio, reading the paper, or talking to fans (UT included)... the LHN is a punchline. Nobody is picking it up. Nobody cares. Nobody wants their cable bill to go up to watch Lady Longhorns Volleyball during primetime.

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How is saying that Texas wants to maximize its revenue potential, just like everyone else, "passing the buck"?

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Maximizing revenue potential is fine but when you're screwing over other to do it... it is a bad long-term strategy. This isn't a get rich quick scheme or a struggling startup. College football isn't going away and you don't want to piss off everyone in the land. If you go indy, then you'll want someone that will schedule you.

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When A&M accepted $7 million more in tv rev last summer than 70% of the conference, capitalism was fine. When ESPN threw all of that $ at Texas, capitalism became horrible.

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I agree with this. I have a hard time with Aggies complaining because they gladly took more. I also have a problem with Baylor talking about unity because they left UH, SMU, TCU, and Rice for dead. The Aggies only look so good in this because Texas looks so greedy.

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With one phone call, even with the LHN, Texas could be in the Pac 12, Big 10 or SEC.

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This is not true. They would all take Texas, however they wouldn't get in without changing or killing the LHN. The SEC wouldn't vote them in with the LHN. The PAC12 wants to turn it into a regional network split with TTU (based on rumor). The Big 10... I have no idea but I'm guessing Nebraska would vote against.

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Does Florida share its tier 3 revenue equally with the SEC?

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It isn't about equal sharing of everything, however the conference exists to protect all of the schools. Vandy needs an equal share of the conference money to even be mediocre because they don't have the other advantages that Florida has. Even with an equal conference money split, Vandy will never touch the money that Florida gets.

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i think people mis understand the idea of self interest.

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People might not understand what Smith means or they might not recognize what's best, but self-interest is a pretty easy concept.

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People might not understand what Smith means or they might not recognize what's best, but self-interest is a pretty easy concept.

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What seems like self-interest is sometimes misguided. If you screw someone and help yourself, then it seems good in the short-term. If they screw you later because you're an arse, then what you did wasn't really in your self-interest.

If you screw people over, then you better get too big to stop because you'll regret it later if not.

Getting rich was in Nevin Shapiro's self-interest. He thought running a Ponzi scheme was in his self-interest. Going to jail probably isn't where he saw himself going based on self-interest.

Sleeping with my buddies wife was in my self-interest. Getting shot in the head wasn't.

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Getting rich was in Nevin Shapiro's self-interest. He thought running a Ponzi scheme was in his self-interest. Going to jail probably isn't where he saw himself going based on self-interest.

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See I disagree that it was in his best interest., Sharpio wanted to get rich, but its not in his self interest to run a Ponzi scheme, since the end result is at best, he loses all his investors money and can't get new clients and at worst he wind up in jail and loses everything. That of course doesn't mean people won't to stupid, corrupt shite like run ponzi's schemes. Everyone is looking for a free lunch, but it doesn't exist.

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Sleeping with my buddies wife was in my self-interest. Getting shot in the head wasn't.

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economics teaches us that life is about trade offs. So you screw you friends wife, maybe its fun and something you wanted to do, but is it worth losing a friendship, being known as someone people don't trust and possibly grave bodily harm? I would argue no, but it maybe it is to others.

Now what if you and your buddy are partners in a business and he dissolves the business over it, was it still worth it?

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See I disagree that it was in his best interest., Sharpio wanted to get rich, but its not in his self interest to run a Ponzi scheme, since the end result is at best, he loses all his investors money and can't get new clients and at worst he wind up in jail and loses everything. That of course doesn't mean people won't to stupid, corrupt shite like run ponzi's schemes. Everyone is looking for a free lunch, but it doesn't exist

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Exactly. He thought it was in his best interest because he was too dumb to look forward. UT didn't look forward.

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economics teaches us that life is about trade offs. So you screw you friends wife, maybe its fun and something you wanted to do, but is it worth losing a friendship, being known as someone people don't trust and possibly grave bodily harm? I would argue no, but it maybe it is to others.

Now what if you and your buddy are partners in a business and he dissolves the business over it, was it still worth it?

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Economics teaches us nothing. Don't frick your friend's wife.