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re: Someone please explain to me why Alabama and Tennessee....

Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:41 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:41 am to
And FYI, Tulane and GT were both pretty good programs when they were in the SEC.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:41 am to
Texas is maybe the only other school that could make it as an independent along with ND. But as conferences expand, which will continue inevitably, their ability to schedule will be compromised and they won't be able to stay that way. Alabama is nowhere close to those two schools.
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:45 am to
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their ability to schedule will be compromised


Why? Conferences will still play the same amount of conference games, maybe adding one at the most.
Posted by attheua
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:45 am to
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I care about the future for ALL OF US and not waking up one day to see the Pac-16 or some other conference rule the world


If you think 2 slapdick programs like Mizzou and A&M are somehow going to make any sort of difference in the grand scheme of things then you can't be reasoned with
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:46 am to
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Why? Conferences will still play the same amount of conference games, maybe adding one at the most.



How do you know this? And if you add teams to an already stacked conference, what incentive do those teams have to play a team like Texas or ND, or in your bite size world, Alabama?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:46 am to
have fun scheduling 18 replacement games in women's basketball while everyone else is in the middle of conference play
Posted by attheua
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:47 am to
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Another Bama fan that thinks we care. As if you want to beat us less. Stupid kid.


Is this supposed to make sense? If you don't care why are you posting in this thread?

Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:47 am to
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have fun scheduling 18 replacement games in women's basketball while everyone else is in the middle of conference play


And they thought those sports lost money now. haha
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:48 am to
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If you think 2 slapdick programs like Mizzou and A&M are somehow going to make any sort of difference in the grand scheme of things then you can't be reasoned with


It's not about their history, it's about the number of eyeballs those states give the SEC in negotiations. If you can't see how important this is then you can't be reasoned with.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:48 am to
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Is this supposed to make sense? If you don't care why are you posting in this thread?



I don't care that we don't have a natural rival. I do care about the stupidity of having constants to placate two schools in the league when two equally as powerful and storied programs in OU and Nebraska were able to act like adults when the Big 12 was first formed.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:49 am to
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If you think 2 slapdick programs like Mizzou and A&M are somehow going to make any sort of difference in the grand scheme of things then you can't be reasoned with



Not a business guy I see.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:53 am to
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if you add teams to an already stacked conference, what incentive do those teams have to play a team like Texas or ND, or in your bite size world, Alabama?


Adding teams does not equate to adding more quality opponents.

SEC adds A&M and mizzou, not exactly scary programs.
Colorado to the PAC 10? Wow that really makes PAC10 schedule more difficult.

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How do you know this?

Generally accepted. Big12 added a conference game when they reduced by 2 teams. Teams need to have X amount of home games each year to pay the bills. The more home and home a conference dictates to be played within conference the less money for the schools.
Posted by GeauxldMember
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:53 am to
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If you think 2 slapdick programs like Mizzou and A&M are somehow going to make any sort of difference in the grand scheme of things then you can't be reasoned with


Simple math: the aggregate metro population of Birmingham, Memphis and Nashville falls somewhere around 1.5 million. Houston, St. Louis and Kansas City are somewhere in the area of 12.5 million. If you can't see the logic, I think it's you who can't be reasoned with.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:56 am to
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Adding teams does not equate to adding more quality opponents.



I stopped right there. You seem to think this is the primary consideration when that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:58 am to
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Adding teams does not equate to adding more quality opponents.

SEC adds A&M and mizzou, not exactly scary programs.
Colorado to the PAC 10? Wow that really makes PAC10 schedule more difficult.


Not shocked you missed the point. And it's too late to explain it to you because I've put the watercolors and crayons away.

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Generally accepted. Big12 added a conference game when they reduced by 2 teams. Teams need to have X amount of home games each year to pay the bills. The more home and home a conference dictates to be played within conference the less money for the schools.





I'll say it slowly. The future is four 16 team conferences. This is closing in on a type of playoff. Each conference will add intra-conference games (Intra means within). Those schools that felt they could go indy will no longer have the requisite number of opponents to make the same type of doe they once made and will not be able to survive that way for long. Further, the non football sports will implode.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:59 am to
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Adding teams does not equate to adding more quality opponents.


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I stopped right there. You seem to think this is the primary consideration when that couldn't be farther from the truth.



You shouldn't have, because you took it out of context. It was an answer to a question about schedule strength not about expansion.
Posted by Marvcus
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:59 am to
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t is for Bama fans. Bama is the most important thing, then the other stuff after. I,m a Bama fan and don't give a damn what Vandy or LSU wants me to think or do. Bama should be playing au and UT every year and if the SEC can't deliver that then F'em.


Bye bye then. Leave. Go independent like Notre Dame. Any rational person understands that a conference may require certain teams to make sacrifices. LSU lost our tradition of playing night games for the conference. We're losing a major foe and rising rivalry with Auburn going to the east.

fricking grow the hell up. You make Alabama seem like a big baby who pouts if something minor doesn't go their way.

Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:01 am to
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You shouldn't have, because you took it out of context. It was an answer to a question about schedule strength not about expansion.




Not a single person was talking about strength of schedule.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:03 am to
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Each conference will add intra-conference games (Intra means within)


Will not happen, doesn't matter if it's 20-team conferences. Presidents will scream bloody murder if they are forced to play more than 9 conference games.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:04 am to
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Will not happen, doesn't matter if it's 20-team conferences. Presidents will scream bloody murder if they are forced to play more than 9 conference games.



Holy shite you can't be this dumb. Do you think divisional foes won't even play each other?
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