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re: So let me get this straight--TEXAS is the bad guy?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:34 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:34 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Tongue in cheek reference--I'm not actually comparing this stuff to politics. I hate threads like that.
I guess they are just liberals when it comes to football?
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Because keeping a mediocre conference together and running it is a pretty sweet deal. I'd do it if I were them, too.
yep, so why is UT working so hard to keep A&M from jumping to the SEC and the Big 12 together?
quote:Possibly.
Ultimately I think they want to be in the Pac 16 or B1G.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:38 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Yep, whether in writing or not. Anytime Texas is in the at-large pool, they're going to get selected. Who do you want in your bowl--9-3 Texas or 10-2 Maryland?
If Texas goes independent, they will almost certainly have the same deal ND has. Nine wins and in.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:53 pm to TxTiger82
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If Texas goes independent, they will almost certainly have the same deal ND has. Nine wins and in.
That's not the complete deal. In addition to winning 9 they also have to be ranked in the top 14, and that only makes them eligible to be selected if there is a spot available after all the automatics are filled (i.e. conf champs, nonBCS ranked in top 12, nonconf BCS ranked in top 4, etc). That's not always the case. To be guaranteed the spot they have to be ranked in the top 8 and that is very reasonable. My guess if TX goes indy and ND stays indy, and both are in the top 8, only the higher ranked would get a guarantee.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:55 pm to Indiana Tiger
The BCS would take Texas and ND both if they were in the top 10 over most schools they had to choose from. Both of those schools represent ratings bonanza's.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:00 pm to xiv
Get your shite straight xiv...have you heard of the Longhorn Network? I could go on but it is not worth it since you did not do your homework.
I stand b the Aggies for standing up to the arrogant sons of bitches in Austin.
I stand b the Aggies for standing up to the arrogant sons of bitches in Austin.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:03 pm to TheCheshireHog
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The BCS would take Texas and ND both if they were in the top 10 over most schools they had to choose from. Both of those schools represent ratings bonanza's.
I know. I'm talking about guarantees. You can only get an at-large if there is space available. If there is a spot, I agree that they would be picked under the vast majority of circumstances.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:06 pm to LSU1860
Out of curiousity, I wonder if one of our A&M friends could tell me how many recruits they have signed in the last few years that actually had offers from Texas.
Personally, I don't see how the LHN would really effect A&M drastically. As it is now before the LHN is even off the ground, Texas takes who they want in state and then everyone else fights over the rest. Really it seems to me that the only team they actually lose recruits to is OU and even that is few and far between.
FTR, I think the whole idea of the LHN is gay but I just don't see it as some major, bad arse recruiting tool that everyone makes it out to be.
I could be naive and you may fight them for recruits all the but I could have sworn I read on here the other day that not a single recruit in your class this year had a UT offer.
Personally, I don't see how the LHN would really effect A&M drastically. As it is now before the LHN is even off the ground, Texas takes who they want in state and then everyone else fights over the rest. Really it seems to me that the only team they actually lose recruits to is OU and even that is few and far between.
FTR, I think the whole idea of the LHN is gay but I just don't see it as some major, bad arse recruiting tool that everyone makes it out to be.
I could be naive and you may fight them for recruits all the but I could have sworn I read on here the other day that not a single recruit in your class this year had a UT offer.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:17 pm to TheCheshireHog
quote:
FTR, I think the whole idea of the LHN is gay but I just don't see it as some major, bad arse recruiting tool that everyone makes it out to be.
I tend to agree with this.
Most big time recruits care about one thing and one thing only: playing time and the chance to make it to the NFL.
They don't really give a crap if they are on the Longhorn Network or not.
Incidentally, the #2 overall pick in this year's NFL draft was a kid from A&M. Texas did not have a single first round pick. Baylor had 2 linemen drafted as first rounders. No wonder Texas went 2-6 in conference last year and lost to Baylor.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:25 pm to xiv
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Arkansas said the same 21 years ago when they announced their intentions to come to the SEC. Arkansas has accomplished nothing since. Texas has been elite almost the whole time.
Texas will never get long-term slaughtered.
If by elite you mean winning 2 championships in 40 years even though you play against subpar competition the majority of the year... then sure they're elite.
IMO Texas has to be one of the most underachieving teams I have had the pleasure to watch in my time on this earth.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:26 pm to xiv
quote:
So let me get this straight--TEXAS is the bad guy?
Didn't read any of this thread but I just gotta go ahead and say yes.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:35 pm to TheCheshireHog
quote:+1
FTR, I think the whole idea of the LHN is gay but I just don't see it as some major, bad arse recruiting tool that everyone makes it out to be.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:39 pm to RollTideTA
quote:No I kind of mean that in the past decade, they've been a top ten program (#6 according to CFDB LINK), whereas Arkansas doesn't crack the top 30. The CFBD site is revising the 1990's rankings, but I'd guess that Texas is in the top 20, and Arkansas may not be in the top 50.
If by elite you mean winning 2 championships in 40 years even though you play against subpar competition the majority of the year... then sure they're elite.
Way to show 'em, Hogs!
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:41 pm to TheCheshireHog
Cheshire, the answer is 0. But that's misleading. Texas is very selective with offers to protect the value ofca Texas offer. The infamous Mack line is, if you are willing to commit, we will extend you an offer.
Whereas other coaches will offer a recruit to get them to come visit. Whether that offer be committable or not.
Last year we went head 2 head for Brandon Alexander and won.
Let's put it this way though. There's no way in hell I would trade rosters with them right now. There players get overhyped. Alex de la Torre is a great example in this 2012 class. He's 4* status only because of his Texas pledge
Whereas other coaches will offer a recruit to get them to come visit. Whether that offer be committable or not.
Last year we went head 2 head for Brandon Alexander and won.
Let's put it this way though. There's no way in hell I would trade rosters with them right now. There players get overhyped. Alex de la Torre is a great example in this 2012 class. He's 4* status only because of his Texas pledge
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:46 pm to xiv
quote:
Texas tried once to leave the Big 12.
wrong. they tried to leave twice with the first time being when the sec expanded with arkansas and usce. the texas legislature put the kiotus (sp) on that move. but, you are correct in your questioning the surmise that TU is the bad guy here; it is a cat fight and that's all there is to it. TU is arrogant and most of their fans i have met are intolerable and therefore i would like to see ANYBODY stick it to them. but maybe the sec oughta stay out of this one.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 6:51 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:Not to bust balls, but that's SWC, not Big 12.
wrong. they tried to leave twice with the first time being when the sec expanded with arkansas and usce.
quote:It usually is.
it is a cat fight and that's all there is to it.
quote:I wouldn't mind it myself.
TU is arrogant and most of their fans i have met are intolerable and therefore i would like to see ANYBODY stick it to them.
quote:+1, especially with the legal complications of tv contracts. If the Big 12 goes below 10, it voids its contract with ESPN. There could be lawsuits. A&M isn't worth it.
but maybe the sec oughta stay out of this one.
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