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re: Remember all of the "Poor Baylor" comments?
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:19 am to Dr Drunkenstein
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:19 am to Dr Drunkenstein
I want A&M really bad in the SEC... but that's funny. I don't care who you are. 
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:20 am to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:
If it is all lies, why hasn't the SEC or A&M disputed it? For Liucci and Chip Brown to be on the same page (especially with Liucci losing his mind) I believe it.
Because Slive doesn't need idiot mouth pieces to feed garbage to the media. The SEC doesn't operate like UT
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:21 am to Dr Drunkenstein
If anything this just delays the
death of the big whatever.
death of the big whatever.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:21 am to Uncle Stu
Stu,
The 'haves' of the old Big 12 (Texas, OU, Neb, COL, A&M) all wanted un= rev sharing at the expense of the "have nots".
That is the point.
Only when the LHN made aggie a "have not" did aggie start screaming about the evils of unequal revenue sharing.
I tied that in to current events.......A&M said it was going to go to the SEC to protect its own interests but now it is mystified that Baylor won't sign the waiver because it wants to protect its own interests.
Aggie is a hypocrite - what is confusing about this?
The 'haves' of the old Big 12 (Texas, OU, Neb, COL, A&M) all wanted un= rev sharing at the expense of the "have nots".
That is the point.
Only when the LHN made aggie a "have not" did aggie start screaming about the evils of unequal revenue sharing.
I tied that in to current events.......A&M said it was going to go to the SEC to protect its own interests but now it is mystified that Baylor won't sign the waiver because it wants to protect its own interests.
Aggie is a hypocrite - what is confusing about this?
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:22 am to hoginthesw
Press release
quote:
The SEC release said it was assured in a Sept. 2 letter that all Big 12 schools condoned the A&M move. But then on Tuesday, the SEC found out one Big 12 school had withdrawn its approval, leaving the SEC to say the Aggies would be approved "upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."
The SEC did not name the school. The Dallas Morning News reported that big 12 Baylor was considering some sort of legal action.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:23 am to Uncle Stu
Yeah, the blame lies squarely on UT's shoulders, and all the deflection by the Longhorn fans is evidence that they know it...they are trying to save face.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:24 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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EXACTLY. Baylor has gone bonkers over the last month. Big Kat (aggie poster) assured me that: - A&M had a standing offer and everything would go smoothly - Baylor would not put up any roadblocks
Baylor has caused more problems than I thought but I stand by my statement that nothing Baylor can do will stop A&M going to the SEC. I am surprised they slowed it this much. But they can't stop it. Book that.
quote:
A&M always voted for unequal revenue distribution in the Big 12 and stayed last year because they were promised many millions more in TV revenue than 70% of the conference BUT when Texas got a ton of cash for the LHN the unequal revenue sharing became this great evil.
Dr. Loftin has been for equal revenue sharing from day 1. When it wasn't going to be agreed upon he worked the best deal for us both monetarily and for stability. UTa and ESPN tried to brake every rule that was set forth (no HS content on LHN, only 1 non-conf third tier game). So we said frick it, we're out.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:29 am to Chicken
quote:
Yeah, the blame lies squarely on UT's shoulders, and all the deflection by the Longhorn fans is evidence that they know it...they are trying to save face.
Chicken.....Texas has granted A&M immunity from legal action. It is Baylor holding up the show.
Are you keeping up with current events?
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:31 am to Dr Drunkenstein
dont deflect....I'm speaking directly to your point that everyone was so kosher with unequal revenue distribution
I have listened to more than one interview where it was clear, even before the LHN, A&M & Nebraska were NOT OK with unequal revenue sharing, but had no choice to vote for it - less losing the conference.
your beloved Horns were holding the conference hostage - "Vote to give us the biggest piece of the pie, you four can have a smaller piece and the rest of you can fight over scraps......or, we'll just bail"
this is something even Ketchum admits to
I have listened to more than one interview where it was clear, even before the LHN, A&M & Nebraska were NOT OK with unequal revenue sharing, but had no choice to vote for it - less losing the conference.
your beloved Horns were holding the conference hostage - "Vote to give us the biggest piece of the pie, you four can have a smaller piece and the rest of you can fight over scraps......or, we'll just bail"
this is something even Ketchum admits to
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:32 am to Big Kat
Big Kat is right. I was merely responding that BU has been anything but quiet. As far as A&M leaving, there is nothing they can. They cant sue A&M legally. Now, they can delay the inevitable about the SEC, but the Ags will clear the hurdle once again. Baylor would have to be pretty dumb to bring an empty handed lawsuit against the SEC. They would get their asses handed to em so fast their heads will spin. We all know the torotious interference suit is nutless and has zero backing.
Baylor has made a fuss, because thats what BU is. A whiny, cry baby bitch of a school that weaseled its way into the big12 and is contempt with smearing their public image just to put on a show. If you think the SEC will really forgo expansion of a school they just unanimously voted in due to Baylor, then you are sorely mistaken.
One thing I do know is, Baylor is about to take a major hit in the PR department. The rest of the big12 members are actually very livid about this. When the dust settles, BU will have acquired so many enemies they could very easily find themselves playing with Sam Houston and SFA as conference mates.
You know for damn sure no current or former conference mate is going to be doing them any favors.
Baylor has made a fuss, because thats what BU is. A whiny, cry baby bitch of a school that weaseled its way into the big12 and is contempt with smearing their public image just to put on a show. If you think the SEC will really forgo expansion of a school they just unanimously voted in due to Baylor, then you are sorely mistaken.
One thing I do know is, Baylor is about to take a major hit in the PR department. The rest of the big12 members are actually very livid about this. When the dust settles, BU will have acquired so many enemies they could very easily find themselves playing with Sam Houston and SFA as conference mates.
You know for damn sure no current or former conference mate is going to be doing them any favors.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:32 am to Dr Drunkenstein
It's tu's fault the conference fell apart.
Their greed that subsequently caused conference instability has ran off every school that has a better option.
How can NU, CU, A&M and OU all be blaming tu and you think you're innocent????
Their greed that subsequently caused conference instability has ran off every school that has a better option.
How can NU, CU, A&M and OU all be blaming tu and you think you're innocent????
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:34 am to Bob Ag
any shot they had at C-USA wanting them (i'm sure their old SWC buddies are happy to bring them on. 
) is probably shot.
) is probably shot. Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:35 am to Uncle Stu
quote:
A&M & Nebraska were NOT OK with unequal revenue sharing, but had no choice to vote for it - less losing the conference.
Stu.....you are out of your fricking mind. When the conference was formed, Neb had just won 3 national titles. Neb was convinced they would benefit HUGE from getting more tv rev from national tv appearances. You are 100% dead wrong on this. Hell, Nebraska was farther along than Texas on making their own network when the Big 10 cam calling. I can find a link on that if you want me to.
As for Big Kat, I always said Baylor would need to be guaranteed a BCS conference to land in before A&M and Texas could separate from Baylor. I feel vindicated.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:35 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas has granted A&M immunity from legal action. It is Baylor holding up the show.
dodge
duck
dip
dive
dodge
are you paying attention?
The breakdown and collapse of the BIG XII - it started with UT. That was my statement, Chicken was replying to my post. Keep up.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:35 am to Dr Drunkenstein
Baylor would sue? who is the President of Baylor?
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:36 am to winyahpercy
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:38 am to Uncle Stu
Conference realignment started when Larry Scott and Bill Powers tried to back room broker a deal for a pac16 and tu agreed to bring along it's tagalongs. A&M said frick you and flirted with the SEC.
That caused instability and NU and CU bolted.
Realignment started because of FUTEXAS!
That caused instability and NU and CU bolted.
Realignment started because of FUTEXAS!
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:39 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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Why should Baylor sign this waiver that effectively sends them out of a BCS conference for good
The only hope for Baylor in a BCS conference is if the Big 12 stays together. If they file a lawsuit and drag it out, the chances of the Big 12 staying together deminish exponential.
Are they going to sue OU and OSU when they bolt for the Pac 12? Mizzo when they leave?
Baylor is cutting their own throats. With this temper tantrum.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:40 am to Uncle Stu
When will Texas learn that equal revenue sharing is better for the individual school's and the conference as a whole?
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:41 am to Duckie
Never. The conference was about them in the SWC as well.
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