re: More lucrative for A&M to stay in Big 12?

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But yet, Texas doesn't see that they are the problem. They talk high and mighty about their sports prowess but how many national championships in football in the past 40 years? One

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Well they do have 3 Big X11 championships to Oklahoma's 7.

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any SEC entrance fees to join the conference?

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Only fee referenced in the bylaws is $50 annual dues.

Dead serious.

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I am new here and I apologize if this is posted elsewhere but does anyone know if there are any SEC entrance fees to join the conference?

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Yes, post your email and I'll send you instructions on where to send your money.

That's OK, I'll still accept your money. Now about that email....get on with it.

Did I mention I'm the nephew of a Prince?

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The Big10 is laughing at the SEC.

If we add 14 teams we MIGHT be able to equal their revenue sharing.

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Why are Arkansas fans so defensive about A&M possibly joining the SEC? It seem like you guys would enjoy finally having a natural rivalry but all I see is defensiveness from Arky fans.

As for the Big Ten, they had the fortune of seeing what the SEC got first and then negotiating. That made it much easier to one up the SEC. I suspect that adding A&M (lots of new TV sets in Texas and someone like say Virginia Tech (lots of new TV sets in Virginia) will have a dramatic effect on the networks when it's time for the SEC to renegotiate. The SEC does have some leverage in that it can threaten to start a network much like the Big Ten's and could threaten to go to another network when the current contract expires if they fail to deal in good faith in any renegotiated contract.

Regardless of the SEC's cut of any TV contract, A&M and the prospective ACC team will add enough value to the SEC's market that any new renegotiated deal will likely increase each SEC team's financial slice of the pie.

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The Big10 did not renegotiate their contract by adding Nebraska and a conference championship game. There is no guarantee that CBS or ESPN are looking to open up the bidding again. Matter of fact, it works against their interest to do so.

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The big10 didn't renegotiate because they would have been laughed out of the room. NU doesn't bring anything to the table except for prestige. Now, their revenue will increase because there will simply be more Big10 games on TV. Plus, the BTN has increased in their profits every single year.

Sure, there is no guarantee CBS or ESPN will renegotiate with the SEC after adding two top 10 media markets. There is also no guarantee a bear will shite in the woods tonight, but I like my chances.

"NU doesn't bring anything to the table except for prestige."

BobAg, What does TAMU bring? they dont commmand ANY markets in Texas. Last year was a good year for A&M and they still barely covered expenses, had a hard time selling out their stadium, and were behind Missu, Arkansas, and LSU in merchandise sold. Arkansas and LSU have a better presence in east Texas than A&M does.

secfan123, there is NO way TAMU attracts 10% of the Texas market. they dont attract any major markets. Outside of their alumni, they dont have a large fan base. Matter of fact, they make fun of T-shirt fans, which is what we are talking about. They have a niche market in Texas and that is about it.

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Is what I said about the TV contracts inaccurate? No. You posted, " the SEC wouldn’t be adding members if it weren’t confident it was getting enough from a new television contract to keep conference distributions at or above current levels." Can you prove that?

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What you said about the TV contracts is unprovable. The facts are that the contracts are not in the public domain, therefore you cannot "prove" anything about the contracts without the verbiage from said contracts.

However, during the SEC media days, there were talks about the SEC renegotiating during this "peek in" that has been discussed. Note that this was said excluding the addition of A&M to the conference. Mike Slive stated this during the media days:

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Obviously when we did our deal we set the pace, and in our contract we have a concept called look-ins," Slive said. "At periodic points during the life of the contract, we can sit down with ESPN and take a look-in and look at the status of television, technology, all aspects of television, and at that point make adjustments that the parties agree are appropriate to make sure that everything that we intended to achieve with the contracts would in fact be available to us.

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Of course, he didn't say "we are going to renegotiate the contract." But from that statement and even without the addition of A&M to the conference it would appear that the SEC intends to get more money from these contracts.

CBS sports chairmen Sean McManus said:

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“When there is expansion, we’ll sit down and talk to the SEC,” McManus said. “If something materially changes in the conference, we’ll sit down and talk to them.”

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To be logical for a minute, do you honestly believe the SEC would vote to expand the conference if it meant less money for them? Really think about that before answering.