- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Is TCU on the SEC short list?
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:48 pm to TexasTiger82
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:48 pm to TexasTiger82
quote:
we could easily say this about ole miss. and dont even start on vandy's perpetual incompetence. tennessee is also working on it's own shite streak as well.
I agree. But I wouldn't pick up Vandy or Ole Miss if they weren't already in the SEC. Tennessee already gets you that state and I've seen the billboards, Miss State owns the state of Mississippi. Between Rocky Top and Grindin' we don't really get helped by the other two schools.
1
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:55 pm to arwicklu
quote:
But I wouldn't pick up Vandy or Ole Miss if they weren't already in the SEC.
so if the test is "what have you done for me lately" i think TCU passes that test.
from a fan's perspective, i would rather have TCU in the west than Mizzou. i don't think i'm alone there.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:56 pm to arwicklu
quote:
TCU does nothing. Aggies already give you dallas and if you want a team that has no following, then might as well pick a state you're not already in.
The SEC has always been about attracting the unaffiliated fans to good matchups, not markets and footprint. That's how they commanded such high TV payouts, nearly on par with the Big 10, with a smaller footprint and population base. The presidents haven't lost sight of that. It's far more important to have schools in areas where high school football is a lifestyle and a culture (thus creating fertile recruiting grounds) than it is to have schools in places like Kansas where nobody cares.
The bottom line is it's starting to come down to the wire if the SEC wants 16. WV and A&M are coming. OU/OSU/UT aren't going to join (TTech would if they don't go west with UT). The ACC is off limits--Slive has said it and now the 20M buyout just happened. It's down to Kansas, KState, Mizzou, Louisville, USF, ECU, Baylor, or TCU (and maybe TTech). Pick 2 of them.
#1 is Mizzou, and it's not close
Kansas and KState are a pair and we don't want KState or 17 teams (and we may not really want Kansas alone anyway given distance and that nobody there cares about football)
USF and Louisville are commuter schools with less success and financial support for athletics than TCU.
ECU is a flash in the pan with a small stadium and is the 5th best athletics program in NC.
Baylor is Baylor. They're TCU without money, success, or market. They'll also sue you if you ever piss them off. Unfortunately they might end up in the SEC based on their suit over A&M.
TTech is probably going to the PAC with Texas, but if not they may be an option. I doubt they could compete though outside of once in a blue moon and lubbock is awful.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 9:01 pm to arwicklu
quote:
TCU has feasted on teams in a bad conference. They are University of Houston north. They had almost 4 decades of being bad. They have no following, even in Dallas. They couldn't even get in the Big 12 over Baylor and TTU. They aren't even a blip in the state and they're even more meaningless nationally.
Any houston fan would give a nut to close the gap between the programs by 50%. They also have a lower avg attendance than TCU, despite being a school with 5-6 times the enrollment. Houston is the UNO of southeast Texas, except they play D1 sports. Kids from Houston that fail out of TCU go to U of H, which is why everyone calls it Coug High.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 9:38 pm to vegas-tiger
hell no, dont let these tcu pricks anywher NEAR the sec......
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:00 pm to saintsman49
quote:
hell no, dont let these tcu pricks anywher NEAR the sec......
Great contribution to the thread.
p.s. You worded that in a way that makes you sound scared, just so you know.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:03 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
quote:
Any houston fan would give a nut to close the gap between the programs by 50%.
That's a trick comment because much like TCU, there are no UH fans.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:04 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
i lived in dallas in the 80s, chump, my hatred of tcu is well founded.......southern mississippi is equal size and stadium capacity.......do you think usm could compete in the sec, NO WAY.....
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:07 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
quote:
p.s. You worded that in a way that makes you sound scared, just so you know.
Honestly nobody is really scared. TCU to the SEC isn't even in the conversation. It's interesting to talk about but makes no sense. TCU has a 50k stadium and has sold out 4 games since 1984. 4 sellouts since '84 even with good teams the last 5 years. It's cougar high north.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:09 pm to arwicklu
sweet post dude.... 
thats my point exactly.....tcu is a glorified high school program, NOT AN SEC PROGRAM.......
thats my point exactly.....tcu is a glorified high school program, NOT AN SEC PROGRAM.......
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:14 pm to saintsman49
quote:
Posted by saintsman49
i lived in dallas in the 80s, chump, my hatred of tcu is well founded.......southern mississippi is equal size and stadium capacity.......do you think usm could compete in the sec, NO WAY.....
Did you really just compare TCU, a private school in the 5th largest media market in the country, with a billion dollar endowment and benefactors that have donated half a billion dollars in the past 7 years, to USM, the third most revered public school in Mississippi that sits in the bustling metropolis of Hattiesburg? Are you serious? That's not even considering on the field product or athletics spending. frick! You really can't be that stupid...
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:19 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
tcu is SMALL TIME!!!!!!!!!ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!!!! theres the way you want things to be, and theres THE WAY IT IS!!!!!!! thats REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
This post was edited on 9/18/11 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:24 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
quote:
Are you serious? That's not even considering on the field product or athletics spending. frick! You really can't be that stupid...
Southern Miss does have 16 consecutive winning seasons. They pounded TCU in Conference USA a decade ago.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:24 pm to arwicklu
quote:
Honestly nobody is really scared. TCU to the SEC isn't even in the conversation. It's interesting to talk about but makes no sense. TCU has a 50k stadium and has sold out 4 games since 1984. 4 sellouts since '84 even with good teams the last 5 years. It's cougar high north.
Outlets that have talked about TCU to the SEC:
NY Times
USA Today
ESPN
Yahoo Sports
Pittsburg Post-Gazette
Realclearsports
AOL Sporting News
Team Speed Kills
Seems like its in the conversation. It's also been all over twitter in the past couple of days that TCU is on the short list.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:27 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
tcu needs to TRY to compete in the left overs of the big east.........that will be MORE than they can handle........
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:30 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
quote:
Outlets that have talked about TCU to the SEC:
That is misleading because most have just said TCU is available. Team speed kills put them on a list and that was about it. Yahoo said the SEC should think about it. There is no serious noise about it. TCU and Baylor will likely end up in the same scrap heap.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:30 pm to arwicklu
quote:
Southern Miss does have 16 consecutive winning seasons. They pounded TCU in Conference USA a decade ago.
3-1 in favor of TCU in Conference USA. Though that was a big 1--TCU was undefeated and #6 in the BCS and looking to be the first BCS buster.
Yeah, that sounds to me like total ownage by USM back then. Keep up the good work.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:35 pm to arwicklu
quote:
That is misleading because most have just said TCU is available. Team speed kills put them on a list and that was about it. Yahoo said the SEC should think about it. There is no serious noise about it. TCU and Baylor will likely end up in the same scrap heap.
A lot of teams are available. They wouldn't mention it if it wasn't worth mentioning.
I agree, TCU is likely to end up a cast away like they have in every other conference realignment. We've done better than we should have with the disadvantages we've had, and winning the rose bowl 15 years after being left for dead because of texas politics and doing it with picked-over recruits is a lot more of an accomplishment than what Alabama has done ever, regardless of their 13 mythical championships (many of them NOT legit, some of them as legit as most other national championships in the past 100 years).
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:40 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
win 13 national championships first, loser, then talk about national championships........you KNOW that wont EVER happen....ROLL TIDE ROLL........
Posted on 9/18/11 at 10:42 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
quote:
3-1 in favor of TCU in Conference USA. Though that was a big 1--TCU was undefeated and #6 in the BCS and looking to be the first BCS buster.
3-2 in the decade with the 2000 bowl game though. You're a little better than Souther Miss. Grats! Sorry the last 40 years have been rough.
Page 5 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News