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Gonna be an interesting week - fun is about to begin.

Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:09 pm
TCU to Big12.
Mizzou can't decide (dummies).
BigE wants 12.
MtmW & ConfUSA talking merger.
Boise wants in the game.
BYU to the highest bidder.
ND may be forced to conference.
SEC at odd number.

ESPN may get its wish.

This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
Member since Feb 2010
12666 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:16 pm to
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ESPN may get its wish.
And that is...
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
36661 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:37 pm to
im guessing he means sixteen team super conferences...
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
9409 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:42 pm to
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ESPN may get its wish.

And that is...



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Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 7:57 pm to
Is their really any doubt that the "worldwide leader" wants to drive the boat in cfb? They want playoff that they control.

First step is to orchestrate the 4 super conferences. Disney/ABC/ESPN put enough $ on the table, the 64 withdraw for the NCAA & ESPN owns it all - football, baseball & bball limited to the super conferences.

Funny that little ole TCU was the domino that put it all in motion
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35063 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 8:23 pm to
etc? Tcu made sure there wouldn't be just 4 supercoferences.

god damn it, this used to be my favorite board but its become over run with rantards.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10419 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 8:30 pm to
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They want playoff that they control.



I don't know, they make a KILLING off of the current bowl system.
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2507 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 8:37 pm to
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Tcu made sure there wouldn't be just 4 supercoferences.


I agree. In the end, the BCS conferences will be ACC, SEC, B1G, Big XII, and Pac-12. The number may or may not be 16, but I don't see the Big XII collapsing unless OU and OSU decide they want to be the SEC's 15th and 16th teams.
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2507 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 8:37 pm to
Which I don't think will happen by the way
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:47 am to
Sorry, meant to say 64+ teams. 4 or 5 conferences makes no difference. Hell, anything over 12 is a super conference.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1891 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:21 am to
With 5 super conf, how will playoff work?
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
8290 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
I don't know why everyone always thinks it's so hard to come up with a playoff format. If we end up having 4 superconferences, you bring the 4 conference winners and 4 at-large teams into an 8-team playoff. An 8-team playoff is perfect because it gives teams like Boise State a chance to get into the playoff and prove themselves against the other teams. However, Boise and any other mid-major school gets into the playoff if and only if they finish the regular season undefeated. They can't complain anymore about not having a chance to win a national championship. You also have some at-large spots for teams that didn't make it to their conference championship for some reason but still had a great record, such as 11-1. They shouldn't make it a 16-team playoff because that would water down the regular season too mcuh. People wouldn't care about the regular season anymore. Right now college football has the best regular season in sports and nobody wants to ruin that.

Now in the scenario that we have 5 superconferences, you take the 5 conference winners and 3 at-large berths. Not complicated at all.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:31 pm to
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You also have some at-large spots

I wouldn't mind that
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for teams that didn't make it to their conference championship for some reason but still had a great record, such as 11-1.

No. Why should a team, be eligible for a national championship if they didn't win their conference?

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They shouldn't make it a 16-team playoff because that would water down the regular season too mcuh.

But they should make it to an 8 team playoff?


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People wouldn't care about the regular season anymore. Right now college football has the best regular season in sports and nobody wants to ruin that.

I agree, that's why there should be NO wildcard type teams.

Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
8290 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:35 pm to
Teams in the NFL are eligible to win a championship even if they didn't win their division. See the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers and 2010 Green Bay Packers.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Teams in the NFL are eligible to win a championship even if they didn't win their division. See the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers and 2010 Green Bay Packers

So what?

As a matter of fact, that's even more reason NOT to do it in college. If that's what you want to see, then watch the NFL.

College football has always been about who the best team is over the course of a season - NOT the team that wins a tournament at the end of the season.

I get so tired of the supposed 'reasons' for a play off in the first place. "Everyone else does it" is NOT a reason.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:40 pm to
Think about it. It would be VERY difficult to get one of the 3 or 4 wildcard spots.You would most likely have to have only one loss on your record to get in. This maintains the playoff-like atmosphere during the regular season. Also, you would be able to keep the Boise State's of the world happy by giving them a chance to compete. It's not fair to give them a 0% chance to win a national championship if they just didn't happen to find a home in one of the superconferences. However, Boise would HAVE to be undefeated to get in. Also when there are conferences of 16 teams, I don't think it's fair to only let one team from that conference have a chance if it happens to be a very strong conference like the SEC.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 12:45 pm
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
8290 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:43 pm to
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College football has always been about who the best team is over the course of a season - NOT the team that wins a tournament at the end of the season.


That's exactly why you have wildcard spots. You don't just reward a team that happened to win the conference championship game at the end of the season even though they might have 3 or 4 losses. There may be teams in that same conference that were great all season and went 11-1. This would be like if South Carolina beat Auburn last year in their rematch in the conference championship fame. South Carolina would go to the playoff with 3 losses even though Auburn was 12-1. If there were no wildcards, Auburn would be left out even though they had a much better record and beat South Carolina during the regular season.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:06 pm to
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Think about it. It would be VERY difficult to get one of the 3 or 4 wildcard spots.You would most likely have to have only one loss on your record to get in. This maintains the playoff-like atmosphere during the regular season. Also, you would be able to keep the Boise State's of the world happy by giving them a chance to compete. It's not fair to give them a 0% chance to win a national championship if they just didn't happen to find a home in one of the superconferences. However, Boise would HAVE to be undefeated to get in. Also when there are conferences of 16 teams, I don't think it's fair to only let one team from that conference have a chance if it happens to be a very strong conference like the SEC.

I'm not syaing keep Boise out, I''m saying that it should be one from each major conference and the highest rated smaller conference champions.

Basically detrmine who all of the conference champions are, and then find out which one is best.

If LSU wins @ Bama, and goes on to win the SECCG, why should LSU possible have to play Bama again in a playoff? That's just dumb.

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That's exactly why you have wildcard spots. You don't just reward a team that happened to win the conference championship game at the end of the season even though they might have 3 or 4 losses. There may be teams in that same conference that were great all season and went 11-1. This would be like if South Carolina beat Auburn last year in their rematch in the conference championship fame. South Carolina would go to the playoff with 3 losses even though Auburn was 12-1. If there were no wildcards, Auburn would be left out even though they had a much better record and beat South Carolina during the regular season.

WTF are you talking about? You don't win the conference all of a sudden at the end of the season, you win it over the course of the regular season.

If USC had beaten Auburn? You obviously didn't watch the game.

I don't want the conference championship to become meaningless like it is in every other sport in college athletics.

What I don't understand is that with college football as wildly popular asd it is, why is everyone so hell-bent on changing it drastically?

Yeah, expand all the conferences and put LSU essentially in an 8-team conference with OK, OSU, A&M, Mizzou, Arky, Ole Miss and State. genrate a playoff system that renders the regular season championship moot. And let's pay the players having them become professional - further distancing the notion of college kids playing for State U.

That would look NOTHING like the college football I've been loving for 30+ years.

If you want a farm type system in football, get the NFL to start one up.

LEAVE MY COLLEGE FOOTBALL ALONE!
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
2076 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:08 pm to
looks like this week is ending up lame and it is only tuesday. who cares what the big east does. if the sec is not making moves then everyone else will hold still for a minute.
Posted by Hawgon
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:52 pm to
16 team conferences and pods. The pod champions play to see who goes to the conference championship game and the championship game winners go to a four team playoff. The rest of the bowl system remains intact for the teams that didn't make the playoff.

By doing it that way, the regular season remains extremely important and we don't have to worry about sucky at large teams like Boise State or Notre Dame getting into the playoff everytime they win 9 games.

Plus, it is completely fair. The polls and ridiculous rating systems play no part in the process. Win your conference and you make the playoffs.
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