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Expansion Rumors.............SIAP

Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:54 am
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:54 am
Listening to the radio up here in Cleveland, one of the weekend guys said he had some inside info from a source in the Big 10 on 2 things:

1. Notre Dame and Texas have had exploritory talks with the Big 10 Network...obviously regarding their addition to the Big 10 if it happened and how they could merge all 3 TV deals.

2. TAMU caught wind that OU,Texas,Okie St and Texas Tech were all having serious talks with the Pac 10. TAMU felt someway about it and felt they needed to get ahead of the curve and embarrassed by getting left behind.....that along with the Longhorn Network were all the Board of Directors needed to hear to make them want to get out of the Big 12.


Anyone else heard these 2 rumors? Take with a grain of salt as will
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4124 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:02 pm to
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1. Notre Dame and Texas have had exploritory talks with the Big 10 Network...obviously regarding their addition to the Big 10 if it happened and how they could merge all 3 TV deals.

This I could believe.
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2. TAMU caught wind that OU,Texas,Okie St and Texas Tech were all having serious talks with the Pac 10. TAMU felt someway about it and felt they needed to get ahead of the curve and embarrassed by getting left behind.....that along with the Longhorn Network were all the Board of Directors needed to hear to make them want to get out of the Big 12.

This I cannot. TAMU would have been part of the move to the PAC last year, but they did not want to. The rumors of TX, TT, OU, and OSU this year was a response to A&M's decision to move.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54055 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:02 pm to
Notre Dame would go Big East before Big 10 but Notre Dame is not giving up indpt status.

I'm not sure DeLoss Dodds knows what he wants to do either. Big 10 baseball would make Texas baseball irrelevant.
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:08 pm to
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1. Notre Dame and Texas have had exploritory talks with the Big 10 Network...obviously regarding their addition to the Big 10 if it happened and how they could merge all 3 TV deals.


Restructuring those TV deals with multiple networks will take years...


Second I thing the Big 12 may stay intact... Just add BYU, TCU, and Boise St. That would improve the conference and keep it afloat
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6854 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:10 pm to
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Big 10 baseball would make Texas baseball irrelevant.


I understand this; however, I do not believe baseball drives decisions such as conference expansion. Football and Basketball do.

Just my two cents.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:25 pm to
I don't understand why Texas baseball ceases to be relevant if Texas joins the Big 10.......
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:30 pm to
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and Boise St.


Again this?

Just a step up from my local junior college academically, financially and in most cases, athletically.

6% graduation rate. Something like #545 college nationwide. $61 million endowment. What besides being a 1 trick pony in football do they bring to the table in any other sport?

TV viewers? Fans? How's Marshall doing lately?

I'd be really suprised if a BCS conference takes Boise. They just don't bring anything else.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6854 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:43 pm to
Dr. Drunkenstein,

I really hope Texas and ND do come to the Big Ten if the super-conference thing happens. Those would be awesome additions to the conference. Come on in the water is fine.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37127 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:01 pm to
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1. Notre Dame and Texas have had exploritory talks with the Big 10 Network...obviously regarding their addition to the Big 10 if it happened and how they could merge all 3 TV deals.



I can believe they would meet to talk about the issue - but I find it hard to see a compromise or solution that would work for the three parties (Big 10, ND, Texas).

Not only is Texas/ND having their own networks a different approach than the Big 10 network shared resources/revenue ... they also involve more than one network (NBC & ESPN/ABC) with interests at stake

Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4124 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:04 pm to
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I really hope Texas and ND do come to the Big Ten if the super-conference thing happens. Those would be awesome additions to the conference. Come on in the water is fine.

It sure seems like TX screwed the pooch on this one. Oh, they will make a lot of money, but the fan experience has got to suffer. The nearest conf opponent would be 800 mi and the rest 1000+. Not a problem for the Big 10 as that is only one trip every other year or more for a given team, but it will be a multi-time every year thing for TX.

Add on top of this the pissy attitude of if you don't do what I want, I won't play you anymore (e.g. TAMU, OU), then it really gets bad. A PAC with OU, TT, OSU, and CO would be a lot more doable.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11021 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't understand why Texas baseball ceases to be relevant if Texas joins the Big 10.......


I agree. They can still schedule a lot warm-weather schools and all the big ten teams will want to come play Texas in Feb and March. They won't lose any home games and gain more.
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:18 pm to
Texas baseball won't be irrelevant if they join the Big 10. They might find it a little harder to get host seeds, but they will still recruit well and will still play us, Rice, TCU etc early in the year when it's snowing in Big 10 country.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:50 pm to
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Second I thing the Big 12 may stay intact... Just add BYU, TCU, and Boise St. That would improve the conference and keep it afloat



For the record I hope it stays intact, but BYU,TCU and Boise are a far cry from Colorado,Nebraska and TAMU. I know football is the driving force, but how good are those schools in all other sports?
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:52 pm to
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I really hope Texas and ND do come to the Big Ten


How does everyone see it? Is Notre Dame just arrogant regarding football or are they concerned about getting lost in a conference due to an inferior product on the field as reasons for not joining the Big 10 or Big East in football
Posted by LSUtah
Salt Lake City
Member since Feb 2011
872 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 2:32 pm to
I'm fairly certain that this guys "inside source" is the same Northwestern U blogger talking about TU and ND to B1G. Since that was the only time that story ever surfaced, I'm just no buying it. Disc jockeys are not journalists...they are paid to make the phone ring.
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