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Congrats to the Aggies - official Dr D eats crow thread

Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:36 am
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:36 am
I wake up this morning and the aggie rivals page is saying A&M to the SEC is 100% done. While I never said that move was impossible, I said plenty of times around here that it was highly improbable because of how Texas politics had kept Texas and A&M from doing what they wanted to do both last summer and when the SWC blew up.

I didn't think A&M would be able to win the political fight (against the Baylor & Tech contingent) and I was wrong - either they won it or there was no fight to be fought and I was mistaken on either count. It still is a surprise to me so I look forward to the details leaking out over time as to how this happened.

I think being in different leagues and not playing any more is good for both universities. Now that the Baylor & Tech bonds have been loosed, I hope Texas can (in order of my preference):
1. Go to the Big 10 with ND
2. Go to the Pac 16
3. Start the new rumored conference with ND

I can tell you this, if Texas stays in a 9 team Big 12 OR stays in a Big 12 which adds UofH or SMU or some other joke school then I will be absolutely furious with how wildly mismanaged this process has been by the Longhorn brass. Based on things I have heard, contrary to popular opinion, I remain convinced that the Texas President & AD have no interest in being an independent.

Well, Bon Voyage aggies. You are in a good position. No one......from me to most posters to the national talking heads expects you guys to win an SEC championship any time soon so there is a lot to gain without much to lose.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:39 am to
honestly...is this TAMU agreeing to move to the SEC, or is there a deal with the SEC in place?

it seems like a huge gamble on the SEC's part to get 1 extra team without having the 2nd new team lined up already

a. it would be hilarious to watch TAMUdo all of this to get approval to move to the SEC, only to have the SEC go lol wut?

b. if there is a mutual agreement, i assume ESPN/ABC/CBS already has a new deal lined up and the 2nd team is lined up in secret. WHO IS THE 2ND TEAM? WHAT IS THE NEW DEAL?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13995 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:41 am to
I believe it when the contracts are signed. Other than that...
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:42 am to
I've felt all along that this would happen...but I am curious to see who else the SEC would get.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:45 am to
quote:

I think being in different leagues and not playing any more is good for both universities.


Who says they wouldn't still play? A la UF and FSU
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:45 am to
D... good post.

With that said, the ink isn't dry yet... won't be until 8/22 (announcement), but all reports say its a done deal other than the signature.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23084 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:46 am to
I find this all very funny considering we have not heard anything from the SEC in regards to this. Part of me thinks this is A&M trying to force their way in by making this a huge story and blowing smoke up the media's arse
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 8:47 am
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:47 am to
quote:

a. it would be hilarious to watch TAMUdo all of this to get approval to move to the SEC, only to have the SEC go lol wut?


Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83222 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:52 am to
a&m is intentionally leaking this all out to all media types for a reason.
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

a. it would be hilarious to watch TAMUdo all of this to get approval to move to the SEC, only to have the SEC go lol wut?


I really, REALLY want this to happen.

mainly so I can
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26717 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:57 am to
Me too
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35636 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:58 am to
quote:

it would be hilarious to watch TAMUdo all of this to get approval to move to the SEC, only to have the SEC go lol wut?
:crossesfingers:
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3065 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 8:59 am to
The SEC isn't taking a gamble here in regards to having a 2nd team lined up. Remember slive's recent "I could get to 16 in 15 minutes " comment. He obviously isn't worried about getting other teams to sign up
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 8:59 am
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Remember slive's recent "I could get to 16 in 15 minutes "da comment. He obviously isn't worried about getting other teams to sign up


That comment makes me think that, when things shake out, the SEC will be a 16 team conference in 2013, as will the Pac & Big 10.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4121 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:00 am to
quote:

I didn't think A&M would be able to win the political fight (against the Baylor & Tech contingent) and I was wrong - either they won it or there was no fight to be fought and I was mistaken on either count. It still is a surprise to me so I look forward to the details leaking out over time as to how this happened.

The politics of this situation is significantly different. Before there was a viable alternative, but now this is about survival. Previously, I don't think the powers that be thought it was worth the fight, but now it most certainly is.

I think we are evolving away from semi-independent conferences and we are moving to a more NFL type model. The player stipend was just a shot across the bow. Schools will be separated into wheat and chaff. We will rationalize to about 8 conferences (or 4 supers with 2 div ea) and with equal revenue sharing. They may not share across supers, but it will probably be close anyway. TX and ND will not be able to stay independent or they will become irrelevant (champions of the USFL so to speak).

Playoff proponents should be happy, because after this realignment, I think they are coming. The money would stay with the teams that matter instead of forced sharing making it worthwhile. College football will not be the same. Better? Worse? I really don't know.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81435 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:06 am to
whats the texas azn mafia's take on this?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83222 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:09 am to
believe it when i see it.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:10 am to
quote:

The politics of this situation is significantly different. Before there was a viable alternative, but now this is about survival. Previously, I don't think the powers that be thought it was worth the fight, but now it most certainly is.


Still, something within the state of Texas changed. I can't believe that the politicians with Baylor & Tech ties just all of the sudden stopped giving a shite. I am shocked that no on from Baylor or Tech has said anything publicly. This leads me to believe that those entities have been incentivized to be quiet or they have been guaranteed that they have a BCS home in some conference. It will be funny if one or both don't have a BCS conference home when all this is done.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:10 am to
quote:

That comment makes me think that, when things shake out, the SEC will be a 16 team conference in 2013, as will the Pac & Big 10.


I don't think that the ACC will sit on their hands either. 4 major conferences with 16 teams sounds like a possibility.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81435 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 9:12 am to
you think aTm is trying to scare the big 12 into giving them some Texas sized benefits to stay?
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