re: Why are we holding out to see what Kiffin "might" do?

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Because it's the only big name willing to hitch their wagon to O. No up and coming OC wants to be tied to Orgeron.

Believe it or not, coaches aren't lining up to be part of his staff. For the record, I'm not a fan of Kiffin.

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You mean like Aranda? You seem very informed. :|

Yup

Ridiculous to let pride and emotion influence our top decision making

Pathetic really

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Because it's the only big name willing to hitch their wagon to O. No up and coming OC wants to be tied to Orgeron.

Believe it or not, coaches aren't lining up to be part of his staff.

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And you know this, how???

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I don't know if any single LSU fan made this complaint.

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You must have been smart enough to avoid the Rant the days following the O hire.

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We're putting our eggs in the Kiffin basket, meanwhile he's not shy about wanting a HC gig. We're basically his fall back option. Even if we got him, he'd be here a year and we're in the same boat next year.

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You are correct about the fact that if we hire Kiffin there is probably a good possibility that he will be looking for a HC job next year especially if he is successful at LSU. That being said I personally feel that he is the perfect hire in that if anyone knows how to beat Bama he does. His offenses go up against Saban's defenses every single day in practice and he knows where the weakness are and who to pick on and how to scheme to beat that defense. Plus if LSU is successful with Kiffin then the reality is we will be able to hire just about any OC we want. So as much as I would hope Kiffin would stay for at least 2 years I don't if he is successful and leaves after a year while not ideal to me it is ok giving what we can learn from him.

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And you know that they havent done this?

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They know everything, man.

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But posting on tRant gives you this divine knowledge of how to run a program. You've convinced me. O is clueless and the average ranter could do better.

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Ah, the old "appeal to accomplishment" fallacy, an attempt to stifle my argument without actually refuting what I said.

I don't have to have been in his position to identify a flaw in his decision making process. I can simply look at the way successful coaches conduct business and see the O is going about it the wrong way.

And it's not a huge leap to believe that someone that made numerous mistakes the last time he had a full time gig would continue to make mistakes. Don't know what you O supporters see in this guy that makes you think he's all of sudden going to magically turn into someone that operates on the same level of guys like Saban and Meyer, guys that he needs to beat.

Here's an exercise, whenever he does something why don't you ask yourself "would Meyer or Saban do it this way?" If that answer is no it might be the wrong way to do it.

So, explain to me the benefits of waiting until our OC candidate exhausts all his avenues for a HC job, and we just sit and wait.

Meanwhile, all other qualified candidates get picked up by major programs or signed to extensions.

What's the benefits of that situation?

That's a good point