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re: White is a 3-4 guy

Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:59 am to
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
73422 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:59 am to
We gotta stop with this 3-4/4-3 obsession

We’ll have 5-6 DBs on the field most times anyway.

A good coach will tailor his scheme to what players he has.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3637 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:02 am to
So we looked good with a 4-3?
Posted by holdatigah2019
Dallas
Member since Oct 2021
199 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:05 am to
In today's football with offenses moving to heavier passing offenses I think a 3-4 or a 3-3-5 both have advantages over a base 4-3.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12615 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Not saying that this is bad, but some of our linemen aren’t built for the 3-4 style. Can’t think of too many OLB’s besides BJ and maybe Webb (who hasn’t played) that can make a strong transition.


If you have a DC that isn’t able to run 3-4 / 3-3 / 4-3 , you have an outdated DC (Pelini) and you aren’t going to be successful in today’s game.

It’s one thing to talk about being “multiple”..see Ed post Aranda…and actually being able to do it.
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:29 am to
It’s important that your defense understands one concept prior to installing multiple fronts. Also, what did BK run at ND?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9020 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:38 am to
quote:


White is a 3-4 guy


OTB broke it down this AM. He runs 3-3-5 most and 2-4-5 2nd most.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:45 am to
Thanks for the insight, coach. Are you being retained on staff?
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:03 pm to
Yea, just seeing how moronic TD is.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
21298 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

He runs 3-3-5 most and 2-4-5 2nd most.

Those are Nickel packages that the 3-4 utilizes.

You basically build defenses around 2 base packages:
4-3 & 3-4.
Everything as far as personnel grouping choices is stemmed off those bases.
So, "they run a 3-4" USUALLY means their base defense is 3-4 but they are going to run different personnel groupings (245/425/335/155/326/317, etc) off what the offense is putting on the field.
Now, I said USUALLY a 3-4 is only referring to the base that the defense is built/recruited by but sometimes they actually have a 3-4 on field because of what the offense has on the field.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:19 pm to
3-4 seems to basically be what all the top defenses run nowadays...I know Saban puts a huge premium on those versatile hybrid LBs on the edge in his.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9020 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:27 pm to
I know.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28690 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

you have a DC that isn’t able to run 3-4 / 3-3 / 4-3 , you have an outdated DC (Pelini) and you aren’t going to be successful in today’s game.
amen. We're passed the point of having a heavy base defense.
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:07 pm to
I think O wanting to switch from the 3-4 hurt us in recruiting that versatile LBer’s we use to get
Posted by Sebourne Klein
Member since Aug 2021
576 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:11 pm to
Wait..........haven't we bitched for 2 years that we weren't a 3-4??
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Not saying that this is bad, but some of our linemen aren’t built for the 3-4 style. Can’t think of too many OLB’s besides BJ and maybe Webb (who hasn’t played) that can make a strong transition.
Uggh. Fight the urge to post.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

outside of a true NT, we should be fine.
troll elsewhere, Assling.
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:04 pm to
Yes several have. I am just saying our personal for certain schemes has been depleted
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
28460 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Having 4 good linebackers is the bigger concern at this point. We only had 2 Lbs worth a shite this year and they are both gone next year.





It depends. One of the linebackers is ojulari. Then you only need 2 more.

It's going to be 3-3-5 for 80% of the game.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30681 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:22 pm to
We ran a 4-3 for half a season now all of a sudden we don’t have the personnel for a 3-4 gotta love the rant
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:58 pm to
You’re insight is valuable.
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