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Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:13 pm to Tiger Ree
I favor 1-2-6-9.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:15 pm to Tiger Ree
If he goes 21-4 at Houston that is remarkable given the teams he has beaten
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:17 pm to Cap Crunch
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This dude has been saying this shite about Herman for a while now. His personal vendetta against him is hilarious Herman must have stole his girl
Tiger Ree = Coach O, Coach O's wife or Les Miles...I haven't figured out which one, but he's one of the three.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:22 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Ignoring important injuries to further your agenda, which is pointless since Herman will likely not be HC next year. He must have really hurt you somehow. Your wife have a crush on him or something and you're jealous? I don't get it.
Nope, I just didn't and don't think a guy who has been a HC at a little league school for less that 2 years should ever be considered to lead the LSU football program. I would feel that way even if he was still doing good in his first HC gig. The way he and his team has tanked the last five games is quite alarming and should be enough to get him off of LSU's list of candidates.
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Herman will have a better HC record than O at the end of the year even if he lost all the rest of his games.
True, and he will have done it with another coach's players. If this year is indicative of a trend, it will be much worse for Herman and Houston next season.
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Nope i am just saying even if he wins out with a top 5 team he will still have a losing record and his only program experience he fricked up.
He took over for Lane Kiffin at USC. Kiffin had gone 4-7 his last 11 games as head coach before getting fired on the airport tarmac. Coach O took those players and program and went 6-2 and beat the #5 team in the country.
Les Miles was fired after going 4-5 in his last 9 games at LSU. CEO took over and has gone 4-1 with a TE's coach as OC. If he beats UF and A&M he will be 6-1 to end the regular season and have LSU playing in the Sugar Bowl.
I wouldn't call that fricked up. I would call it pretty damn impressive. Much more than losing to Navy and SMU(who he was favored to beat by 22.5 points).
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I am aware, but you're the only person on this board posting little jab threads. It's pretty fricking dumb, but hey this board expects it from you at this point. No one takes you seriously anyway.
That's cool. I'm just here to have fun and lay down fact. If it wasn't fun I wouldn't be here.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:25 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Do me one favor and i will shut up. Post a comparitive chart of Os HC record vs Hermans. Post the wins and losses, to who, and by how much. Since you love numbers take a look at that comparison and tell me who has the better overall record. Until then anything you say is complete bullshite. Just do that and let's discuss it. I'll wait...
Okay, you send me a 200 page book report on your favorite book and and I will do the stupid shite you are requesting above.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:30 pm to Stephen1979
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Ree, are you ok? This obsession with Tom Herman is unhealthy. It was funny for a while , but I'm really getting concerned about your emotional health as a fellow tiger fan.
The only obsession I have with one-season-wonder, five-game-skid Herm-dog is him not becoming the HC of LSU.
Thanks for all of the advice, I'm sure it will be okay and Tommy-Sue will be coaching Houston again next year.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:32 pm to Tiger Ree
Injuries
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:48 pm to mmcgrath
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Why are you killing him for the offense when he likely has more influence on the other side of the ball?
1)Because our offense is where we need to improve. Why does it make sense to hire a defensive guy, when the offense is what really needs to be fixed?
2) i am bringing it up because Ree, here, thinks Orgeron doesn't have to take ownership for poor offensive performances as HC, but has credited him with the offensive production versus some of the worst defenses and teams in the SEC. My point is if he gets the good he deserves the bad.
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Obviously the offense has improved under Coach O, but any idiot could have done that following Les.
I 100% agree. That's kinda my point on O. He isn't doing anything revolutionary here. People were so low during the final miles years they think O is revolutionizing our offense, or if he "just hires a good coordinator" it doesn't matter.
Ree just has an issue with objective analyses when it comes to the LSU HC search. He loathes Herman, and would never think he is a good coach. Period. It's pretty puzzling if you objectively look at Herman's overall resume from OC to HC.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:51 pm to Tiger Ree
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Okay, you send me a 200 page book report on your favorite book and and I will do the stupid shite you are requesting above.
Haha. That's what i thought. Wouldn't be able to defend that so just deflect. Would you like me to do the leg work for you, and then we can discuss? I'd be happy to do so. Just let me know since you're obviously the "box score and stat guy".
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:53 pm to Tiger Ree
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True, and he will have done it with another coach's players. If this year is indicative of a trend, it will be much worse for Herman and Houston next season.
Herman's 2016 is still better than O's time at Ole Miss. Lmao.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:09 pm to mmcgrath
You can't blame the program when the coaches before and after him won more games and he Had the worst coaching record of any Ole Miss coach with more than 1 season.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:38 pm to Tiger Tracker
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1)Because our offense is where we need to improve. Why does it make sense to hire a defensive guy, when the offense is what really needs to be fixed?
Because the defensive guy has done fairly decent with a TE's coach running the offense. The defensive guy has also stated that he will run the USC offense that they used under Pete Carroll. He will also hire an OC to run that offense.
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2) i am bringing it up because Ree, here, thinks Orgeron doesn't have to take ownership for poor offensive performances as HC, but has credited him with the offensive production versus some of the worst defenses and teams in the SEC. My point is if he gets the good he deserves the bad.
Ree has never said that. But, if he is a defensive guy who has nothing to do with the offense, is he the one responsible for the Alabama outing?
O doesn't get credit for the three all-time LSU offensive records, outscoring opponents 163 to 58 (including the Bama game), outscoring opponents 90 to 20 (including the Bama game) in the second half. But, he gets all the blame for the Bama game that was 0-0 at the end of the third quarter. Bama also got a little assistance from their buddies that LSU didn't get.
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I 100% agree. That's kinda my point on O. He isn't doing anything revolutionary here. People were so low during the final miles years they think O is revolutionizing our offense,
Well, Hermaggedon - the offensive guru has done a lot worse on offense than LSU has since CEO took over. Isn't the Herm-meister an offensive guru of some sort? 303 yards against SMU?
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or if he "just hires a good coordinator" it doesn't matter.
Just like Herman losing to Navy and SMU and struggling against Tulsa, UCF and Tulane? If O hires a "good coordinator" he can fix the offense, so yes it shouldn't matter.
Can Hermly fix losing to SMU? Seems he has been HC of his team for 22 games now and lost to SMU when favored by over 22 points. CEO has been on the job for 5 games.
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Ree just has an issue with objective analyses when it comes to the LSU HC search. He loathes Herman, and would never think he is a good coach. Period. It's pretty puzzling if you objectively look at Herman's overall resume from OC to HC.
I would think Hermson is a good coach if he coaches his own players. If he is HC for more than 1 full and 1 partial season.
He was very impressive as OC under other head coaches. Can he run his own program and be as successful as the coaches he worked under? That is the question to which there is not enough data to determine. He may really be a one-season-wonder and Houston may be worse next year than they are this season. All indicators point to that right now anyway.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:42 pm to Tiger Ree
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Tiger Ree
Let me know when you want me to post that comparison of O's HC career vs Herman's, since you refused. Then let's discuss. Wonder why you wouldn't do that? Hmmmmmmm.....i wonder.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:42 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Herman's 2016 is still better than O's time at Ole Miss. Lmao.
Well, Ree's 2016 is much better than Ree's 2006. Herman's 2016 sucks when compared to coach O. And that is on offense alone. I thought I heard Hermsmak was some kind of offensive genius. How can a D-line coach with a TE's coach running the offense outperform the guy by a large margin?
LSU would be taking a step back offensively by hiring the Houston coach. AND the step back is from a TE's coach running the offense under a D-line coach. Pretty alarming if you think about it.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:51 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Let me know when you want me to post that comparison of O's HC career vs Herman's, since you refused. Then let's discuss. Wonder why you wouldn't do that? Hmmmmmmm.....i wonder.
Knock yourself out. Doesn't matter to me. I have seen what O had done at Ole Miss, USC and LSU.
I have also seen what Hermdude did in his only full season as a HC last year. I have also seen what he has done this year playing an easier schedule with some of the former coach's players leaving.
Gene Chizik went 14-0 in 2010 at Auburn. He was later fired. Is Herman following the same path? It certainly looks like it to me.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:55 pm to Tiger Ree
You're missing the most obvious one- his starting quarterback is questionable for the game.
It's a legit reason.
It's a legit reason.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 5:00 pm to Tiger Ree
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Knock yourself out. Doesn't matter to me. I have seen what O had done at Ole Miss, USC and LSU.
And you still want him as HC. Tells me all i need to know right there. Carry on, crazy.
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I have also seen what Hermdude did in his only full season as a HC last year. I have also seen what he has done this year playing an easier schedule with some of the former coach's players leaving.
Yep. He went from one loss to two losses. Total drop off. Total shite season for Herman and Houston. Worst coach ever. I mean O never lost two games at Ole Miss or USC...sheesh! What was i thinking?!?!
Posted on 11/17/16 at 5:24 pm to Tiger Tracker
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And you still want him as HC. Tells me all i need to know right there. Carry on, crazy.
Over one-year-wonder Herman without a doubt, easy decision. How could you fire a guy who goes 6-1 and gets the team to the Sugar Bowl, if he does win out, and hire a guy who lost to SMU? A guy who could possibly wind up 8-5 this season.
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Yep. He went from one loss to two losses. Total drop off. Total shite season for Herman and Houston. Worst coach ever.
Last year they played four ranked teams and lost one game - UCONN. This year they are about to play their second ranked team and will have three losses. Their strength of schedule this year is 94th.
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I mean O never lost two games at Ole Miss or USC...sheesh! What was i thinking?!?!
Got darn you live in the past. CEO at USC took over a team that was 4-7 in its last 11 games and guided them to a 6-2 record. Yes, he did not do good at all at Ole Miss 10 years ago.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 5:30 pm to Tiger Ree
I was told by those who want Orgeron that a a HC's history at a previous gig is irrelevant
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