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re: When Herman finishes 3-4 in Houston's last seven games
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:23 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:23 am to H-Town Tiger
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Name me one other decent program that would hire Ogereon over Herman?
What the heck does this thread have to do with Orgeron?
Me: It's cloudy do you think it will rain in Houston today?
Herman homers: I saw where it rained in California yesterday. It rains a lot in Hawaii.
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:26 am to Tiger Ree
Coach O would have a losing record if he was HC of Houston this year.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:27 am to HMTVBrian2
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Why shouldn't people take into account that Orgeron was a massive failure the ONLY TIME he's been a full time head coach? I'd say that's more important than anything else he's ever done.
Because this thread is asking if would it change anyone's opinion on Herman if he is 3-4 over his last seven games.
I'm starting to realize why so many here jumped on the Herman bandwagon and now can't let go. They aren't smart enough, can't even read a simple short post and determine what it is about.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:28 am to Tiger Ree
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What the hell does it matter if he has SEC type recruits when he plays in the AAC?
Because he is playing AAC teams with AAC players. Tulsa, Navy, etc are good programs at the same level as UH. Navy has had 1 losing season in 13-14 years. Tusla leads the division. If he had LSU's current roster playing UH's schedule, he would not lose to Navy or SMU. If he played LSU's schedule with his current UH roster he would lose more games. It's simple, you judge coaches and teams on how they do against their PEERS. Not based on how those teams compare to a higher level of competition. You can say Navy or Tulsa are "crap" teams all you want, it just proves you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:35 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:youre actually arguing against yourself right now. UH has had better recruiting than anyone in the AAC, what herman is doing now is not only peer vs peer but he should actually have a slight advantage.
It's simple, you judge coaches and teams on how they do against their PEERS.
if he was the superior coach he shouldn't be struggling to go .500 in the second half of the season.
one bad game wouldnt be a problem, and i even started this thread after the navy game saying that, but 4 in a row is a problem. its a massive problem.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:35 am to Tiger Ree
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What the heck does this thread have to do with Orgeron?
because it is quite clear you want Coach O and are trying to trash Herman based on the dumbest of reasons, because you can not make an rational argument for O or against Herman because do not or will not understand (even though I personally have told multiple times what the argument against Herman is).
quote:
Me: It's cloudy do you think it will rain in Houston today?
Herman homers: I saw where it rained in California yesterday. It rains a lot in Hawaii
with every post you just prove me right that you have no clue how to analyze these things. If we are discussing the weather in Houston, the weather in California or Hawaii is not relevant.
when we are talking who the best candidates for the LSU HC job are, the records of those candidates is relevant.
If UH loses 2 of the last 3, Herman will be 21-5 as a HC in 2 years, that's a damn good record and I already told you multiple times i don't look at short term results but the overall picture.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:37 am to H-Town Tiger
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It's simple, you judge coaches and teams on how they do against their PEERS.
OK, since no one can understand my OP. Let me revise:
Revised question:
Even if he loses 4 of 7 against his PEERS should he be considered to lead the LSU program?
I'm not comparing coaches, teams, recruits or a myriad of other considerations. I am simply asking what you will think if the guy finishes the season's final seven games with a 3-4 record.
Should he still be considered to lead the LSU program? Maybe knock him down a few pegs on the list of candidates?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:38 am to TheCaterpillar
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And I'll ban bet you Houston has a winning record in their final 7.
Bro, Ive tried to get this negative asshat to take a ban bet already. He has a personal anti-Herman agenda that holds no bearing on his coaching abilities. Would fight this guy in real life just on general principle.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:40 am to Tiger Ree
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When Herman finishes 3-4 in Houston's last seven games
... he's still capable of being a better offensive coach than Miles / CEO.
Which means, with an Aranda defense, he's likely to win an awful lot of games at LSU.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:43 am to H-Town Tiger
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If we are discussing the weather in Houston, the weather in California or Hawaii is not relevant.
Ex-fricking-actly !!! That is why I am wondering why the conversation becomes peers, CEO, conferences and who calls who for advice.
I asked one simple question and no one that has posted in this thread seems to be able to figure it out.
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If UH loses 2 of the last 3, Herman will be 21-5 as a HC in 2 years, that's a damn good record and I already told you multiple times i don't look at short term results but the overall picture.
Okay, so you think his first season as head coach with someone else's players carries a lot more weight than what he did in his second season. Makes sense.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:47 am to releauxded2469
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Would fight this guy in real life just on general principle.
What principle? The principle that Herman's team has gone to shite? From being ranked #6 to unranked. Not my fault he can't keep his team motivated or focused.
I would question anybody that would just totally disregard the guy finishing the season with a 3-4 record.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:48 am to H-Town Tiger
No coaches will have a perfect record against inferior teams, even the best of the best of coaches will lose a few here and there. However, Herman has shown in his short time of being a head coach that he can scheme against the best and beat them with inferior talents. Furthermore, the best of coaches even consulted him on his offense philosophies. Not all coaches have the talent to be a head coach, Herman does.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:52 am to sunshinetiger
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However, Herman has shown in his short time of being a head coach that he can scheme against the best and beat them with inferior talents.
This makes sense and I agree to a certain point.
On the other hand he has lost to Navy and SMU. If he does lose two of his next three he will have also lost to Memphis.
Is he great at winning the big games and then falling prey to lesser teams?
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:07 am to MastrShake
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one bad game wouldnt be a problem, and i even started this thread after the navy game saying that, but 4 in a row is a problem. its a massive problem.
UH had one bad game at SMU. The other 3 were against teams with winning records and they are 2-1. Not to mention they've dealt with a slew of injuries to their OL, as well as to their starting RB and WRs.
They might recruit better than anyone in their conference, but they're not 2-3 deep at every position like Bama. No one is. To think they should be crushing good teams every week, just to prove Herman is a good coach, is silly.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:07 am to Tiger Ree
It's perplexing to think that Houston beat the Sooners but then lost to a team like SMU. Perhaps the team is distracted and the players are starting to show their disappointment of losing their head coach soon. How that team performs at the beginning of the season compare to their recent performance is very contrasting, thus I wouldn't put too much weight on Herman losing to these teams.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:07 am to Tiger Ree
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What principle?
Peace and humanity. Everyone on this board is tired of your constant babble of meaningless bullshite about Herman. If you "knew" as much as you think you did, you would be making money doing it for a living instead of spewing your "expert opinion" on tigerdroppings. Its not the fact that you have a different view of others on the board as that is welcomed. Its the fact that literally at all times throughout the day you make it a point to insert your uneducated opinion into any thread about Herman to feed your agenda. You are a troll and hope to God you get banned so no one has to scroll past your bullshite attempt at "insight".
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:18 am to sunshinetiger
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How that team performs at the beginning of the season compare to their recent performance is very contrasting, thus I wouldn't put too much weight on Herman losing to these teams.
Saban lost in the Sugar Bowl twice because his team was disappointed. If it can happen to him it can happen to anyone.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:22 am to releauxded2469
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Everyone on this board is tired of your constant babble of meaningless bullshite about Herman
Instead of "everyone" your post should read "Herman fans".
Stating how his team is doing is meaningless bullshite?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:58 am to Tiger Ree
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Stating how his team is doing is meaningless bullshite?
It is when you discount him as a coaching candidate without taking into account the other variables that effect game outcomes. It is close minded and borderline retarded to not see the intangibles that a candidate like Herman has. Is he the next Meyer or Saban? Who knows. But when you you discount him due to a loss against a damn good Navy squad and a loss against SMU with an good up and coming coach, you lose all credibility. Since you know so much about football (definitely sarcasm and NOT a real compliment) tell me who your sure fire candidate is for the job?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:59 am to Tiger Ree
His team has quit on him. The endless rumors about him leaving UH has derailed his program. This would happen to any coach in his position and is not indicative of his skill.
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