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re: UAB fires AD Brian Mackin & will shutdown football program

Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:19 am to
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2215 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:19 am to
Considering UAB football has started to trend up being bowl eligible for the first time in a decade and attendance going up now is not the time to shut it down. If they were going to should have last year or the year before.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12898 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:31 am to
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Considering UAB football has started to trend up being bowl eligible for the first time in a decade and attendance going up now is not the time to shut it down. If they were going to should have last year or the year before


I totally agree. If they were going to do this they should have kept McGee and let them win 2 games again this year then shut it down. But to go through the motions of hiring Bill Clark and let them get bowl eligible then attempt to shut it down is just sorry.
Posted by DecaturAU
Birmignham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
780 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:44 am to
Everyone is missing the bigger picture. This affects WAY more than just the football players and coaches. This affects the whole athletic department and the whole University as well. Other athletic teams will have to be shut down because of Title IX and every sport will take a hit dropping out of C-USA. Not only that, but student enrollment will suffer and the University as a whole will lose millions because of it. Also, those 85 scholarship players who would not be in school receiving an education will have to go elsewhere and I guarantee you many will never end up back in school and have no education, and that's not even including the other sports that will shut down. Bama fans need to stop downplaying this, it's a really big deal. UAB football is not about being a dominant program and winning bowl games every year, it never will be in this state. But it's about increasing enrollment size and continuing to grow the whole university in one of the most important medical cities in the country.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
82314 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:45 am to
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If their QB can fog a mirror,let's get him to baton rouge


Yeah, not to sound like a vulture or anything, but if they have a QB that can hit a bull in the arse with a bass fiddle, Miles needs to offer him.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2955 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:52 am to
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Overbrook


And I'm sure that most activities at UAT fit that goal? Sure. No boondoggles there.


There are two main moneymakers at U of A... football and campus housing. That's pretty much the case at all state schools you'd care to name at the Div 1 sports level.

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I also note that UAB has a higher endowment than UAT. How can that be?


You are factually wrong. U of A's endowment portion of the entire University of Alabama system is about double that of UAB. U of A and UAB are two universities with very different missions even if some student majors and educational facilities are duplicated. UAB is primarily a RESEARCH institution and U of A is primarily an EDUCATIONAL institution, though of course there is some overlap. Their main sources of funding is quite different. While I am a U of A graduate, I really have nothing against UAB at all - they fulfill a different mission in the University of Alabama system. As does UAH where my son attends.

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despite routinely approving borrowing for fraternity mansions


This shows your ignorance. At U of A, fraternity houses for the most part are owned by the University and leased back to the national fraternity chapters. They are net money makers for the University. This is a pretty common model among many universities with strong Greek systems. At UAB, building an on-campus stadium without primary support from the city of Birmingham was going to be a net drain on finances... and by tens of millions of dollars. The comparison you gave is in no way comparable.

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But for a Board, whose members largely have only tenuous ties to UAB, to ramrod this, looks fishy.


Just because it looks fishy to you doesn't mean it is actually fishy. I'm relatively sure that the board of trustees are privy to a lot more planning, support, and financial issues that you and I are. Maybe they are making a good decision, maybe they are making a bad decision, I am not sure how it will float out int he long run... but based on what we know, they appear to be making a fiscally based sound decision at the current time. I haven't seen anything to the contrary so far.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61925 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:14 am to
Idk about you guys, but UAB has by far some of the WORST helmets in FBS.



Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2215 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:46 pm to
I don't think they are that bad
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19591 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Not only that, but student enrollment will suffer and the University as a whole will lose millions because of it.


My alma mater (UT-Arlington) dropped football in 1985. Our student enrollment hasn't suffered in the least--we're the 6th largest university in Texas (and not that much behind the University of North Texas, which has a nice pretty new stadium and a crap football team playing in it). At nearly 35,000 students we're the 4th largest D-1 school without a football team. So we're not hurting without one.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:27 pm
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