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Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:09 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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This "thought excercise" ignores that he will have 7 more games to show what he can do with top talent, and that there is still a very strong contingent of USC fans, a top three program, who feel like it would have been better off in his hands.
His whole game is recruiting. Houston Nutt won with his players at Ole Miss. O not having the talent to improve Ole Miss is asinine.
3-9 to 9-4 in one year.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:21 pm to dcw7g
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You don't think Aranda or Ensminger could go on a run as interim HC with this team? Hell, Peveto could go 6-2 from his house. Don't. Mean. Nothing.
I think you might actually have brain damage. You can throw out a list of names all day, that's not the point, for two reasons.
1) The results will speak for themselves.
2) Orgeron is an elite recruiter, a people person, and fits the culture at LSU. The intangible things that are usually question marks with a coach are all pretty well checked off here. The big question is can he put it together well enough to win games, and the next 7 weeks will answer that. It's usually the opposite, you have a guy who won somewhere else and you're nervous about the intangibles and it translating to the new school.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:34 pm to therick711
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O not having the talent to improve Ole Miss is asinine.
The hell are you even talking about? We get it, you're stuck on what the guy did 10 years ago. If that's your angle then there's no debate to be had. It should go without saying that anyone considering O as the HC does so with the presumption that he has learned more about how to be a successful head coach in the decade since he failed at OM, and he's said exactly that citing very specific examples.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:36 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Oh, he said he's better now? Well that changes everything. I have it on good authority that Derek Dooley is better today and learned from his mistakes. Also, Doug Mallory and Bradley Dale said they learned from their mistakes and are ready to be his co-defensive coordinators.
They gave specific examples. Dooley's mom even took up for him on the radio. Saddle 'em up!
They gave specific examples. Dooley's mom even took up for him on the radio. Saddle 'em up!
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:39 pm to therick711
Things I like about Coach O
-great energy
-recruiting
- has shown some progressiveness & seems to have his own ideas(compared to Miles). Ie bringing old players back, dialing down practice time, throwing players like Gage in that he may have felt deserved a chance.
-if he is a true delegator to his assistants, that is a good thing. I think he must keep a guy like Austin Thomas around
Things i worry about
-Inexperience
-game planning
-sanctions that seemed to follow his time at Miami, USC & Ole Miss(pending).
-executive decision making, esp emotional vs sensible
-hiring good ole baws(ie Pete Jenkins). Is he going to try & reward old friends as opposed to best man for job?
-great energy
-recruiting
- has shown some progressiveness & seems to have his own ideas(compared to Miles). Ie bringing old players back, dialing down practice time, throwing players like Gage in that he may have felt deserved a chance.
-if he is a true delegator to his assistants, that is a good thing. I think he must keep a guy like Austin Thomas around
Things i worry about
-Inexperience
-game planning
-sanctions that seemed to follow his time at Miami, USC & Ole Miss(pending).
-executive decision making, esp emotional vs sensible
-hiring good ole baws(ie Pete Jenkins). Is he going to try & reward old friends as opposed to best man for job?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:42 pm to Lester Earl
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-hiring good ole baws(ie Pete Jenkins). Is he going to try & reward old friends as opposed to best man for job?
I like Pete for a temporary gig. I don't like his blood-brother promise with Clay Helton to make sure he's on staff as a coordinator.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:45 pm to therick711
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Oh, he said he's better now? Well that changes everything. I have it on good authority that Derek Dooley is better today and learned from his mistakes. Also, Doug Mallory and Bradley Dale said they learned from their mistakes and are ready to be his co-defensive coordinators.
They gave specific examples. Dooley's mom even took up for him on the radio. Saddle 'em up!
Ok prick, it's obvious I'm wasting my time typing here. We have seven weeks to find out if Orgeron was full of shite or not. If you can't see that's why your retarded thought experiment is flawed then have fun with the mental masturbation.
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