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There are more jobs out there than good candidates.

Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by Slippy
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:09 am
It kinda sucks that all these programs decided to really suck at the same time. Now they're all in the market competing for the same small group of elite candidates. Most will end up with second rate hires.

A&M should retain Sumlin one more year unless they can make a big splash (e.g., Jimbo Fisher). There will be less competition next year for the best coaches.

Who would want to coach at Arkansas? It's an awful football team with no recruiting base. Hang onto Bert another year and improve your chances of getting somebody good.

Ole Miss needs to dissolve the football program.
Posted by HolyBreesus13
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:22 am to
Arkansas is a very appealing job, especially with it being the only "job" in the state.

There's limited pressure at Arkansas. To be successful the recipe is simple: Arkansas fans are happy with 7-9 wins on a consistent basis, mixed in with a 10-11+ season every 4-6 years.

There are only a handful of elite candidates across the landscape of college football anyways.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:22 am to
Lucky for some of the other programs that Florida and Tennessee are looking to hire coaches who aren’t currently coaching.

Even if you don’t think they’ll land those coaches, it gives some other schools the chance to move quickly.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Now they're all in the market competing for the same small group of elite candidates. Most will end up with second rate hires.


you know, it all depends on your definition of elite candidates and second rate hires. big school college football is getting like the NFL; they don't like to give a new guy a chance and pursue the "less risky" path by hiring a retread. the problem with hiring the elite guy has been mentioned over and over again so a school better have a backup plan.

this year, both Georgia and Tejas went after a coordinator and a mid major guy. they seem to have made good decisions. these up and comers are usually much hungrier than proven guys that already have made gagillions of dollars.
Posted by AvidLSUfan
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Ole Miss needs to dissolve the football program.


Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:33 am to
Completely agree
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:08 pm to
Who are the big jobs open now ? UF and maybe Tennessee? They may both hire coaches that are out of the game right now . The top young coach could end up at Nebraska.
Posted by dru5
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:14 pm to
More than likely a lot of the middle tier schools will have to fill open positions with recently fired coaches from the upper tier schools
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

There are more jobs out there than good candidates.




Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 2:46 am to
I think there are way more good candidates than jobs. It’s all perspective, and the hiring pool you’re looking at.

It’s not possible for Florida or A&M to pick a “bad year” to look for a coach. They might screw up the hire, but they’ll have options.

To a lesser extent UT and Arkansas are the same way.

Ole miss, and mississippi state if Mullen is poached may be a different story.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 2:50 am
Posted by roger79
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Arkansas is a very appealing job, especially with it being the only "job" in the state.


What's your recruiting base?

quote:

To a lesser extent UT and Arkansas are the same way.


As coaching jobs go, Tennessee and Arkansas are not as good as they/you think. Both have small in-state recruiting bases compared to Texas, Florida, Georgia and Louisiana, four states represented in the conference.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 7:24 am
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9095 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:40 pm to
Yeah, but We’re not judging if they are a top 10 job overall. We’re judging where they are at as a job opening. Most years they would have an opening they will be at or near the top. Almost all sec programs would be.

The money invested and pay alone warrant that. The exposure and ability to prove yourself if you do well at a vandy or Mississippi state can get you any job you want as well.

If I’m a sought after coach, and I’m not a local/alumni, I’m taking Arkansas over Nebraska.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:40 am to
"Elite candidates? Pfft. Who needs elite candidates?"

-Joe Alleva
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8728 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:49 am to
Posted this in another thread.


Doesn't this happen every year? Every year, there are several P5 programs that open up. Wait a year, there will be several more.

The idea that this year is somehow special is ludicrous. The reason? Just what you said - there are more schools than great coaches. So in every year, more schools will open up than there will be great coaches to fill the jobs.
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