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re: Stop With the Coach O for Permanent Head Coach Stuff. Really?
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:09 am to zeebo
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:09 am to zeebo
I love how mad some people get over this
If coach O does a great job and turns LSU into what we were expecting to see, shows he has learned from his mistakes and allows his Coordinators coach and wins out or 7-1 and the team is clicking
Why would you want to get rid if that to go after somebody that might be a better name?
I am going to just let myself get caught up in the excitement and enjoy this.
After kickoff it will all become real again
If coach O does a great job and turns LSU into what we were expecting to see, shows he has learned from his mistakes and allows his Coordinators coach and wins out or 7-1 and the team is clicking
Why would you want to get rid if that to go after somebody that might be a better name?
I am going to just let myself get caught up in the excitement and enjoy this.
After kickoff it will all become real again
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:14 am to atltiger6487
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Last time he was a permanent HC coach he went 3-21 in conference.
By all means lets judge him on 15 years ago and not his more recent work.
So is Kiffen high in your list? Cause that's whose team O had to turn around and go 9-0.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:16 am to AlaTiger
I dont think anyone is saying give him the job right now. Its more of "a want" for him to succeed. I know Im pulling for O. Whats wrong with hoping that the guy from down the bayou does good and makes the decision for Alleva easy? I really dont see anything wrong with keeping him IF he shows that he can make the necessary changes and light a fire under the program. Save some money on the HC and throw the bank at a high quality OC.
Now if he doesnt perform well and say we go 5-3, then yes, we should be going after one of the big fish. But like I said, I dont see anything wrong with pulling for BeBe to be successful.
just my $0.02....
Now if he doesnt perform well and say we go 5-3, then yes, we should be going after one of the big fish. But like I said, I dont see anything wrong with pulling for BeBe to be successful.
just my $0.02....
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:19 am to AlaTiger
The thing people don't realize is that even if he does well, it's still not his program.
He didn't get these players, he didn't pick these coaches, he didn't institute any of this, except slight changes in offensive scheme.
At USC he had both coordinators and the same situation and went 6-2 with a terrible loss and 5 wins over cupcakes.
He has built his own program once. And it got gradually worse until it culminated in his 3rd year with one of the worst seasons in the history of our conference.
O is clearly an asset to the program with his recruiting and energy, but he is not the guy you hire after firing Les Miles mid season. He is not the intelligent, strategic coach we've been craving for years.
A players coach who recruits well but isn't very smart is Les Miles 2.0. He just has a Cajun "rahrah" flare to it. Let's get a detail and process oriented coach in here like Herman.
He didn't get these players, he didn't pick these coaches, he didn't institute any of this, except slight changes in offensive scheme.
At USC he had both coordinators and the same situation and went 6-2 with a terrible loss and 5 wins over cupcakes.
He has built his own program once. And it got gradually worse until it culminated in his 3rd year with one of the worst seasons in the history of our conference.
O is clearly an asset to the program with his recruiting and energy, but he is not the guy you hire after firing Les Miles mid season. He is not the intelligent, strategic coach we've been craving for years.
A players coach who recruits well but isn't very smart is Les Miles 2.0. He just has a Cajun "rahrah" flare to it. Let's get a detail and process oriented coach in here like Herman.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:27 am to TheCaterpillar
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The thing people don't realize is that even if he does well, it's still not his program.
He didn't get these players, he didn't pick these coaches, he didn't institute any of this, except slight changes in offensive scheme.
At USC he had both coordinators and the same situation and went 6-2 with a terrible loss and 5 wins over cupcakes.
He has built his own program once. And it got gradually worse until it culminated in his 3rd year with one of the worst seasons in the history of our conference.
O is clearly an asset to the program with his recruiting and energy, but he is not the guy you hire after firing Les Miles mid season. He is not the intelligent, strategic coach we've been craving for years.
A players coach who recruits well but isn't very smart is Les Miles 2.0. He just has a Cajun "rahrah" flare to it. Let's get a detail and process oriented coach in here like Herman.
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This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 7:29 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:33 am to prplngldtigr
Not a response to you directly....but I noticed there are a lot of down votes for anyone talking positively about wanting O to do good for LSU. Looks like someone has an agenda.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:34 am to lsufan31
An agenda to not have Orgeron be our permanent head coach? You're damn right.
But no I don't down or upvote anyone usually.
But no I don't down or upvote anyone usually.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:53 am to TheCaterpillar
Why cant we all want whats best for the program? If O does a great job, why would you not want him as our head coach?
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:17 am to lsufan31
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If O does a great job, why would you not want him as our head coach?
Great as in we win a NC this year? Sure, keep him.
Anything other than that and O is not the guy.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:18 am to AlaTiger
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Stop With the Coach O for Permanent Head Coach Stuff. Really?
No...coach O is from louisiana....alot of us wouldn't mind him being head coach. If he beat's bama at home this year he has my vote...frick off
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:36 am to the LSUSaint
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So is Kiffen high in your list? Cause that's whose team O had to turn around and go 9-0.
Where did I ever say Kiffin was high on my list???
And O went 6-2 at USC, not 9-0
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:37 am to lsufan31
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Why cant we all want whats best for the program? If O does a great job, why would you not want him as our head coach?
Because I don't think O as head coach will ever be whats best for our program.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:39 am to YouAre8Up
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Good Lord people..... Let the guy coach a game first.
Amen to that.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:40 am to DBU
Good luck with your disappointment.
There is no way that LSU will attract Herman or Fisher. Not after the shite show we had here last year. Not to mention how you can be the most successful coach in school history, and still get fired here.
There is no way that LSU will attract Herman or Fisher. Not after the shite show we had here last year. Not to mention how you can be the most successful coach in school history, and still get fired here.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:43 am to dboyback
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coach O is from louisiana....alot of us wouldn't mind him being head coach.
Do you realize how fricking stupid this sounds?
We are going to pay someone $5+ million to lead a program that generates $100+ million in revenue for the school because he's from Louisiana and can recruit?
Look, again, I really want Coach O to be a part of LSU's football program. Make him Associate Head Coach, Recruiting Director, and DL coach. Pay him $2 million a year to do this.
But don't make him in charge of our program. He has been in charge of 1 program once and it was historically bad from every perspective. Not just "trying to coach things he didn't know about". He had absolute lack of institutional control, no team discipline on or off the field, and he was the opposite of "detail oriented" in every respect.
He was also the worst gameday coach I've ever seen. His in-game adjustments were non-existent or abysmal.
He's Les Miles 2.0 with a Cajun accent and more energy. Great recruiter, players coach, no discipline, great guy, and not very intelligent.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:43 am to lsufan31
You have to love the confidence of random rantards that literally have zero knowledge of what is going on behind closed doors.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:44 am to dboyback
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coach O is from louisiana....alot of us wouldn't mind him being head coach.
This is as fricking stupid as the Michigan idiots demanding a "Michigan Man"
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:03 am to AlaTiger
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Nothing against Coach O as a person or coach, but let's aim higher, shall we?
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I hope he does well as interim and he's doing what he needs to do. I get that he wants the job and is auditioning for it. But, after all of the success, the championships, the money, the stadium, recruiting, everything, if we are really wanting Coach O as the permanent coach, we are in a mess.
I couldnt agree more with the whole initial post...
He shouldnt have a shot at it... make him think he does but just keep him on staff to do what he does best.. Coach DL, energize and recruit..
The same people clamouring for Coach O I think were the sunshine pumpers for miles for so long...
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:17 am to TheCaterpillar
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He had absolute lack of institutional control, no team discipline on or off the field, and he was the opposite of "detail oriented" in every respect.
He was also the worst gameday coach I've ever seen.
Haven't you heard?
Orgeron has matured. He's learned from the past. He's now one of the best head coaches in college football.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 9:19 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:25 am to Cs
after reading some of the comments, I did not think about the retooling of the staff and all of that after the season.
I am very excited about LSU football right now bc as of Sunday morning the season was over, plus the Saints suck.
So this is what I have for Football. I want Coach O and LSU to do great.
But you also have to consider the team Coach O has, this was a NC caliber team before the season, so if he turns it around it will really be just achieving what was expected.
I am going to just enjoy the season as much as I can and not think about the future HC.
I am very excited about LSU football right now bc as of Sunday morning the season was over, plus the Saints suck.
So this is what I have for Football. I want Coach O and LSU to do great.
But you also have to consider the team Coach O has, this was a NC caliber team before the season, so if he turns it around it will really be just achieving what was expected.
I am going to just enjoy the season as much as I can and not think about the future HC.
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