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Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:22 pm
Are you seriously going to talk yourselves into Derek Mason....?

These are the same arguments y’all made for Bo. Going grab stats from the early 2010s to make your case.

It’s a different game. And his team defense got much worse once the SEC started running the spread. That’s trending in the wrong direction.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4235 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Are you seriously going to talk yourselves into Derek Mason....?

These are the same arguments y’all made for Bo. Going grab stats from the early 2010s to make your case.

It’s a different game. And his team defense got much worse once the SEC started running the spread. That’s a trending in the wrong direction.



I think nobody is talking themselves into anything, the reality is what will Woody and TAF Money folks allow O to do given budget constraints that seem to have been imposed. Do you think it is 100% certain that Woody and TAF Money folks are going to give O carte blanche with respect to budget and contract to go make a hire.

LSU is paying Bo $4 million plus and Linehan I think $1.6 million after firing them. Throw in Bill Busch's buyout you are getting around $6.5 million or so.

Mason may be a hire that O and Woody/TAF can agree on. O knows him and lets say Mason gets 1.2 million for sake of argument, LSU pays 400K and Vandy pays the rest via Mason's buyout. LSU is not strapped with another Bo Pelini contract and if O has another season like this, 6-6 for example, is he here for 2022? I would say no and it seems Woody and TAF are already preparing for that situation if it happens and do not want another ton of money tied to dead contracts.

That is how I am reading this, and I for the record have been on the Marcus Freeman bandwagon since last week.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:51 pm to
I understand money talks.. I’m in the money game.

That being said.. hiring Mason is going to cost you more money because he is a poor investment. He can’t do what you need him to do... scheme against the spread.

It’s better to stretch yourself on something your bullish about rather than buy because of value.

My grandpa used to say “buy it right the first time, and you’ll never have to buy it again.”

That’s why he didn’t buy junk from Walmart just because it’s a discount, he spent a little extra and bought the real thing.

In the long run, it will save you money.

Go get Freeman! He is ascending.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3455 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:58 pm to
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O knows him


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Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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It’s a different game.

Yes it is.

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Teams at all levels were placing their best athlete behind center and implementing varying elements of the spread-option; zone-reads, designed quarterback runs, triple-options, run-pass options and doing it all at warp speed.

In that summer of 2013 (with the future of the three aforementioned quarterbacks unknown) the league with the greatest football minds in the business set out to try and solve the riddle...from some of the best defensive minds in the country (Nick Saban), to those who had implemented the destructive plays offensively (Urban Meyer). But one man generated one of the largest crowds of that coaching clinic summer: former Stanford defensive coordinator, now Vanderbilt head coach, Derek Mason.

Mason, a former college cornerback, made a name for himself by building a system that shut down the potent Oregon Ducks attack in back-to-back years. Talking heads said Oregon — ?and spread-option teams as a whole? — succumbed to some good ol’ fashioned power football. But the might of the NFL knew better than that, and they wanted to meet with the man who had designed, and implemented, a defensive strategy that shut down one of the most explosive college offenses in recent memory.

LINK


The biggest knock on Mason isn't not knowing what to do against the spread.

It's the fact he uses the same 2-gap scheme with exoctic looks on 3rd down that Aranda used. Would O consider reverting back to that after touting his "attacking" 1 gap defense all year.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 5:13 pm to
Good point. I don’t get this...
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