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Scheme wise pertaining to DCs
Posted on 12/25/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 12/25/20 at 5:56 pm
O wants a 4-3 and I think the DC he hires needs to be close to that for success and to keep him from meddling. Now a traditional 4-3 is kind of obsolete with modern offenses, but a 4-2-5 with variations would be a great fit, especially considering our personell. Based on that this is how I’d rank the guys we are supposedly looking at:
1. Nielson: runs a 4-2-5 and 5-1-5 on 3rd downs with the Saints. He probably won’t come here, but he’s the best fit scheme wise.
2. Freeman: runs a multiples system-4-2-5, 3-3-5. Has called plays successfully and is young and hungry.
3. Brad White: runs a 3-4, but it very aggressive and attack oriented, think what Josh Allen did as a stand up edge LB/DE hybrid.
4. Derek Mason: runs a 2-gap 3-4, which allows for LBs shooting gaps but is not very aggressive and his secondary is almost exclusively zone, which Raymond doesn’t jive with.
Other factors come into play, but scheme wise this is how I rank them.
1. Nielson: runs a 4-2-5 and 5-1-5 on 3rd downs with the Saints. He probably won’t come here, but he’s the best fit scheme wise.
2. Freeman: runs a multiples system-4-2-5, 3-3-5. Has called plays successfully and is young and hungry.
3. Brad White: runs a 3-4, but it very aggressive and attack oriented, think what Josh Allen did as a stand up edge LB/DE hybrid.
4. Derek Mason: runs a 2-gap 3-4, which allows for LBs shooting gaps but is not very aggressive and his secondary is almost exclusively zone, which Raymond doesn’t jive with.
Other factors come into play, but scheme wise this is how I rank them.
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Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:06 pm to Andychapman13
With our personnel, it’s imperative that we stick with a 4-3 or 4-2-5. We can’t afford to change schemes again and have an already depleted team in the wrong niche.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:09 pm to BayouBengals90
Absolutely, we probably do need to be more flexible with the secondary and play some zone when teams are running these picks plays on us all day, but a 4-2-5 and a hybrid from it is what we gotta do with our front 6-7. It’s the pressure you put on the QB that allows for so many turnovers!
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:13 pm to Andychapman13
Freeman scheme uses 3 safeties. Is it just coincidence that we emphasized safeties is this class? We are still looking at S Jardin Gilbert to add to this class. Plus some talk about bringing Marcel Brooks back, who would be perfect for that scheme.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:14 pm to N2daWild
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Freeman scheme uses 3 safeties.
Not always
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Is it just coincidence that we emphasized safeties is this class?
Sorta. Did you see our safeties this year? Plays we have like 4 on the roster and 2 are in their 4thnyear.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:21 pm to Andychapman13
I’m a “4-2-5” guy. Like you said it’s all about schemes and what you do with your back 5 but People get caught up in a name, You can get any look up front from a “4-2-5” or “3-3-5” it just depends on what the call or tag is. I’d also be willing to say the “5-1-5” is just different personnel group with a tag/call. I know a prototypical Vince wilfork type 0 tech is what most call for to make a 3 man front work but you can get it done with good DT play.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:23 pm to N2daWild
5 DBs is just the future of college FB. Even with lockdown corners like Stingley and Ricks you need 3 other DBs, whether it be a corner covering the slot or a nickel back. Shoot, when Auburn slowed us down last year Steele was running a 3-2-6(where one linebacker was literally behind the other) or 3-1-7.
I think with Wards ability to make plays and the idea that Sage might be talented enough to play nickel almost like Matthieu we could make it work. Freeman seems creative enough, especially with his multiple front D to put our players in the best position to succeed.
I know Mason is only 51, but I think he’s too far removed from being a successful DC to make this happen.
I think with Wards ability to make plays and the idea that Sage might be talented enough to play nickel almost like Matthieu we could make it work. Freeman seems creative enough, especially with his multiple front D to put our players in the best position to succeed.
I know Mason is only 51, but I think he’s too far removed from being a successful DC to make this happen.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:28 pm to geauxfortwo
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You can get any look up front from a “4-2-5” or “3-3-5”
In high school (yea I know it’s just high school) we ran a 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 stack interchangeably and played strictly Cover 3
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:32 pm to Andychapman13
That 3rd safety/rover/monster/bandit/whatever they want to call it is the key especially if you’re going to use him as a force player a lot of snaps.
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