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re: Randy Rosetta confirms Kragthorpe is the new OC

Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:11 pm to
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I think this guy is overrated with QBs. Who has he actually developed a full 4 years that turned out worth a damn?


What's your definition of "worth a damn?"

Paul Smith posted a career high in completion % under him.
Mark Farris had the best year of his career under him at A&M. Same with McCown, before him.


Posted by tigersandjets
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
734 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:12 pm to
It can be worse than Crowton.

Gary Crowton (Total offense)

2001 BYU HC #1
2002 BYU HC #50
2003 BYU HC # 102
2004 BYU HC#58
2005 Oregon OC #22
2006 Oregon OC #13
2007 LSU OC #9
2008 LSU OC #51
2009 LSU OC #102
2010 LSU OC #81

vs.

Steve Kragthorpe (Total offense)
1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91

10 years each.

Gary Crowton, average rank in total offense: 49th
Steve Kragthorpe, average rank in total offense: 53rd
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 2:12 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:13 pm to
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Gary Crowton, average rank in total offense: 49th
Steve Kragthorpe, average rank in total offense: 53rd



I can think of few things worse than "Total Offense" stat comparisons.



Stats are like bikinis. What they REVEAL is interesting. What they HIDE is vital.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

I enjoyed the Cotton Bowl



I did too but I didn't enjoy the other 8 bad games in a row he played for us
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2317 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:00 pm to
"From 1991 until 1995, Belichick was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. During his tenure in Cleveland he compiled a 36–44 record"

Bill Belichick was named New England Patriots head coach in 2000, succeeding Pete Carroll. His first year he went 5-11. The rest is history.

Saban with the Dolphins go 9-7 (not bad for first year NFL HC), then goes 6-10.

Pete Carroll in the NFL had winning seasons 2/6 years.
Steve Spurrier with Redskins goes 7-9 and 5-11
Steve Spurrier with S. Car. goes, 7-5, 8-5, 6-6, 7-6, 7-6, 9-5

Mack Brown went 5-10 last year and he recruits the best of the best.

Joe Paterno's worst records include, 3-9 (2003), 4-7 (2004),

Bobby Bowden in his last 4 yrs, 7-6, 7-6, 9-4, 7-6.

Charlie Weis as New England OC goes 5-11, 9-7, 14-2, 14-2,
Charlie Weis as Notre Dame HC goes 9-3, 10-3, 3-9, 7-6, 6-6.

I could go on and on, but look at the coaches above and notice one thing. Every coach has failures. Maybe Krag had a rough go at Louisville, but I think its hard to judge a coach just by the numbers, which is exactly what us fans can only do. Its really hard to judge by wins/losses. Hard to judge by offensive and defensive rankings. I think when the right coach finds the right opportunity at the right time and under the right circumstances success can breed, but unfortunately under the wrong circumstances can breed failure.

Remember this always, Gary Crowton Coordinated the MOST PROLIFIC OFFENSE IN LSU HISTORY, yet most agree that his time here resulted in failure.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
16113 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:00 pm to
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Stats are like bikinis. What they REVEAL is interesting. What they HIDE is vital.


That is some profound shite right there.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
16113 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Gary Crowton (Total offense)

2001 BYU HC #1
2002 BYU HC #50
2003 BYU HC # 102
2004 BYU HC#58
2005 Oregon OC #22
2006 Oregon OC #13
2007 LSU OC #9
2008 LSU OC #51
2009 LSU OC #102
2010 LSU OC #81

vs.

Steve Kragthorpe (Total offense)
1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91


With one exception, Crowton's offenses got worse the longer he stayed at a program. With one exception, Krag's got better.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17900 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

tigerbill002


Great post.
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42032 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:06 pm to
All of these teams:


quote:

2001 BYU HC #1
2002 BYU HC #50
2003 BYU HC # 102
2004 BYU HC#58
2005 Oregon OC #22
2006 Oregon OC #13
2007 LSU OC #9
2008 LSU OC #51
2009 LSU OC #102
2010 LSU OC #81


had/have aaaaaaaaaalot more talent than ANY of these teams:

1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91



btw, the Tulsa team he took over wasnt the Tulsa we know know with number 1 offenses and shite..they had won 7 games in THREE years when he got there and took them to 3 bowls in 4 seasons.The guy can coach football
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Gary Crowton (Total offense)

2001 BYU HC #1
2002 BYU HC #50
2003 BYU HC # 102
2004 BYU HC#58
2005 Oregon OC #22
2006 Oregon OC #13
2007 LSU OC #9
2008 LSU OC #51
2009 LSU OC #102
2010 LSU OC #81


Crowton was HC at La. Tech and an OC for Chicago Bears. Where are those stats?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52837 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:24 pm to
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Crowton was HC at La. Tech and an OC for Chicago Bears. Where are those stats?




quote:

10 years each.
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
The Golf Board Godfather
Member since Apr 2010
13637 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:31 pm to
Absolutely love this hire.


WE WILL FINALLY HAVE AN IDENTITY ON OFFENSE!!

WHOOOOO
Posted by LIGER
Dallas
Member since Feb 2009
41 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

He could have followed Petrino during his days at Louisville, but then again he ain't an easy guy to follow these days.



Patrino is, was, and always will be a classless thug. Look what he did to Atlanta. Krags took on a losing battle at Louisville. IMO
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17900 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:38 pm to
Any word on a presser? LSU official announcement? Ott said probably tomorrow...anyone else heard?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81329 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 3:41 pm to
who called the plays when he was at Tulsa?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

who called the plays when he was at Tulsa?


I dunno. I didn't look at that.

But check out where his OC from Tulsa is now:

LINK

Big time BBQ party!

Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9542 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:14 pm to
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Saw your brother on a billboard today


One ugly bastard
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10360 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:18 pm to
Fairly good hire.....we'll see.


I do remember when Pelini was hired a lot of folks on this board thought it was a terrible move back then.......
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94368 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:19 pm to
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But check out where his OC from Tulsa is now:


Took me forever to find that and you had beat me to it.

quote:

Big time BBQ party!


Oooooohhh....Must be some sort of conspiracy some people won't like. Miles must have caught wind of this all the while Kragthorpe was painting the picture for him.

Can't imagine the grills that will be lit at Stud's house.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:22 pm to
Stubbs, Miles, Billy, and Stud will get together, roast a pig and talk foosball while Frank Wilson does all the recruiting and shite.

They may even have Gary back once Maryland's season ends in late November.
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