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re: Pushing a successful coach out is dangerous.

Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by Dignan
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:39 pm to
Accepting mediocrity is more dangerous than pushing out a successful coach.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:48 pm to
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What did LSU do in the 20 or so years after getting rid of Chollie? Nothing that Chollie couldn't do.


Ridiculous. In the first nine years after he was gone, LSU did a lot of things than Chollie couldn't do:

--won two SEC titles and should have been awarded a third but the title was vacated (McClendon won one SEC title in his 18 years as coach, none in his last nine years)

--went to two Sugar Bowls and one Orange Bowl (LSU's last major bowl appearance under McClendon was in 1973, six years before he was let go, and he made only two major bowl appearances in his last 12 seasons)

--had a better winning percentage than it had during the last nine years of McClendon's tenure (later revised by NCAA mandated forfeits of three wins by Mississippi State in 1974, 75 and 76)

--beat Alabama four times and tied them once (McClendon was 2-14 for his career and 0-9 in his last nine years vs. Alabama)

--had its first 10-win season and top 5 finish since 1961 (the year before McClendon became head coach, McClendon never won 10 games or finished in the top 5 in his 18 years as coach)

--had its best 5-year stretch, from 1984-88, since the mostly Dietzel-led stretch from 1958-62 (McClendon coached the final year of that stretch in his inaugural 1962 season)

LSU's program improved by nearly every measurable criterion after Cholly Mac was let go. And this was even in spite of the fact that the coach we hired to take over for him was killed in a plane crash a few months after he was hired, leaving us having to scramble for a last-minute replacement in Jerry Stovall.

It wasn't until 1989, a FULL DECADE after Mac was gone, that the program went down because of the disastrous hiring of Mike Archer instead of Steve Spurrier, who wanted the job, in 1987.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 7:48 pm to
Take a look over at the SEC rant and check out how many threads are being started by opposing fans upset at the possibility of LSU replacing Miles.Why do you believe that is happening?
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:54 pm to
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If he gets fired, there's not 1 single major program out there that will take him. He may coach a UAB or a New Mexico State team but that's about it.


This is just stupid. I hope you don't actually think this. Miles is probably the second most successful current coach in the nation. Anyone would hire him
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:48 pm to
He's gone man, embrace it
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:57 am to
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What has Texas done since they got rid of Mack? Nothing that Mack couldn't do.

waited too long to push him out. The rot had set in

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What has Tennessee done since they got rid of Phil? Nothing that Phil couldn't do.

same issue here, and recruiting in state for them is worthless

Nice try with stupid comparisons try better next time.

Any coaching search has risk, but letting a coach stay longer than they should is extremely dangerous.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 10:40 am to
Considering the youth of LSU's team the timing seems right to bring in a better X and O guy to utilize the talent in place and continue recruiting interest.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 1:10 pm to
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Accepting mediocrity
Mediocre buzz phrase for mediocre people with a mediocre grasp on these things.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 1:11 pm to
Somebody two states over retired.
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