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re: PGC.....Word on the radio front is Joe Lombardi.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:15 pm to Magician2
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:15 pm to Magician2
If you want to ignore the passing records and success for quarterbacks he has coached, that's fine.
National rankings of a unit alone don't tell the whole picture. Texas A&M was undefeated in 1994. The Clemson team was not good and the whole staff got fired. But Nealon Greene was their best player.
And everyone always leaves off Georgia in these comparisons.
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:16 pm to Maximus
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Steve wasn't OC at UGA.
He was the PGC. Are we not giving those guys credit now?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:18 pm to Magician2
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You’re spouting out emotional statements that don’t carry any weight.
I posted facts about his quarterbacks. I posted my opinions as a college football fan that watched Ensmingers teams. I posted no emotional statements.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If you want to ignore the passing records and success for quarterbacks he has coached, that's fine.
National rankings of a unit alone don't tell the whole picture. Texas A&M was undefeated in 1994. The Clemson team was not good and the whole staff got fired. But Nealon Greene was their best player.
And everyone always leaves off Georgia in these comparisons
So then we've got a guy who was supposedly one of the hottest OCs in the game that never had an offense sniff the top 10 nationally, fired at each stop, and ended up coaching HS football? Yet its the other people being selective? How about you just admit you made that statement not knowing the actual facts instead of continuing to dig the hole deeper?
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:25 pm to L S Usetheforce
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I’m not an ensminger fan boy but I surely am capable in understanding that Joe Brady couldn’t have pulled off what he did without a veteran to implement. Yes I believe Brady called plays in red zone and made in game adjustments. No I don’t think Brady could have made it happen without ensminger.
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:12 pm to BilJ
It’s like some of you just started following college football. All football coaches, especially back then, did not want a top 10 offense.
There is no scenario where a team coached by RC Slocum or Tommy West would ever have a top 10 offense. Regardless of who was the offensive coordinator.
Both were old school defensive guys.
There is no scenario where a team coached by RC Slocum or Tommy West would ever have a top 10 offense. Regardless of who was the offensive coordinator.
Both were old school defensive guys.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:15 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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All football coaches, especially back then, did not want a top 10 offense.
Well that's not true at all.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:20 pm to Joe Mantegna
Of course it is. Les Miles had this philosophy a few short years ago. You think it wasn’t common 25 years ago?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
You said all coaches, I'm pretty sure Spurrier and Bowden thought the opposite
Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:55 pm to Joe Mantegna
All coaches did not ...
“All the children did not want dessert”
Does not mean no children want dessert.
“All the children did not want dessert”
Does not mean no children want dessert.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:58 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Why did Steve keep getting fired and need to take position coach jobs in high school? Surely there were old school defensive head coaches looking for the hottest OC in America to disguise as the 90th best.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:16 pm to Maximus
He’s been a coach for more than 30 years. Few coaches can go that span without getting fired or having blemishes in their record.
Not that you really care, because you’re just a contrarian, but he was only fired from Texas A&M.
I don’t personally consider a coach fired if the head coach is fired and the entire staff let go. By that measure nearly every coach has been fired. This is what happened at Auburn and Clemson.
I don’t know why he chose the jobs he did, but apparently he coached his son in high school, so perhaps that’s the reason.
I do know he’s been a coordinator at 5 Power Five schools.
He’s at LSU now and we just won the national title, but hey remember that time he failed as a coach 20 years ago?
Yea, let’s make sure we never move past that.
Not that you really care, because you’re just a contrarian, but he was only fired from Texas A&M.
I don’t personally consider a coach fired if the head coach is fired and the entire staff let go. By that measure nearly every coach has been fired. This is what happened at Auburn and Clemson.
I don’t know why he chose the jobs he did, but apparently he coached his son in high school, so perhaps that’s the reason.
I do know he’s been a coordinator at 5 Power Five schools.
He’s at LSU now and we just won the national title, but hey remember that time he failed as a coach 20 years ago?
Yea, let’s make sure we never move past that.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:23 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
So he just couldn't get work cause thems the breaks, even for one of the hottest OCs in the country. Great explanation.
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And Auburn only happened cause he lead an offensive staff coup against outsider OC Tony Franklin. Tuberville even immediately said he wouldn't be a permanent OC candidate.
So really 3 and he's had effectively zero success until this year. But you longed for him in the 90s cause Buddy Songy told he was awesome.
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I do know he’s been a coordinator at 5 Power Five schools
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And Auburn only happened cause he lead an offensive staff coup against outsider OC Tony Franklin. Tuberville even immediately said he wouldn't be a permanent OC candidate.
So really 3 and he's had effectively zero success until this year. But you longed for him in the 90s cause Buddy Songy told he was awesome.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:35 pm to Maximus
He cooks a mean etouffee. Obviously the only reason he keeps getting jobs.
And I’ll make a note that we don’t consider passing game coordinators to be actual coordinators. (Or interim coordinators)
Posted on 2/1/20 at 4:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Do you think that the passing game coordinator on the average team has 25% of the say/influence that Joe brady did this year?
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 4:55 pm to Maximus
Wait how could passing game coordinator be important back then if all coaches wanted shitty offenses?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 5:11 pm to BilJ
Those were the days when John was under Stefano’s mind control and Princess Gina was a thing.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 5:48 pm to S
And when Marlena was the devil...
Posted on 2/1/20 at 6:05 pm to Maximus
Perfect example. You’re arguing about stuff you have no knowledge of. Ensminger was the play caller at Georgia.
Ensminger at Georgia
Ensminger at Georgia
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Ray Goff turned to Steve Ensminger 27 years ago in hopes of helping to boost his Georgia offense. Just like Ed Orgeron did this offseason at LSU.
Goff’s friend, Jimmy Matthews from Albany, known for coming up with the “Junkyard Dawg” name for the Bulldog defenses under Erk Russell, told the Georgia coach to check out the Louisiana Tech offensive coordinator who ran the nation’s No. 11 total offense.
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“He called me up and said you need to look at this guy,” Goff said.
Goff called around to learn more about Ensminger and liked what he heard. He hired him as quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator for his Georgia staff in 1991.
He joined new offensive coordinator Wayne McDuffie. All it took was one meeting with Ensminger for coveted Marietta High quarterback Eric Zeier to “solidify” his decision to choose Georgia, the Bulldogs radio analyst said this week.
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Georgia opened up its run-heavy offense. It transformed from pro-style, I-formation with sprint-draw action to more of a West Coast offense with three and four-wide sets and short to deep progressions during Zeier’s career.
As a freshman, Zeier became the first Georgia quarterback since 1952 to throw for more than 200 yards in back-to-back games.
Ensminger worked with McDuffie, “but Steve pretty much called plays,” Goff said. “Wayne had a chance to rebuke ’em or say no.”
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In 1992, Georgia led the SEC in scoring and total offense with Zeier and running back Garrison Hearst and finished 10-2.
Zeier ended his Georgia career with 67 school passing records and 18 SEC records. He threw for 3,525 yards in 1993—second most in a season in Georgia history behind 3,893 by Aaron Murray in 2012.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 6:08 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Congrats on him "pretty much" calling plays. I knew buddy songy wouldn't steer you wrong
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