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re: Petrino Extension - 7 years

Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:41 pm to
also should add to the list of reasons to extend the contract: Arkansas has committed $40 million to completely renovate the football operations building, practice fields, and everything in the area based on Petrino's wishes.

it's only smart business to lock-up the coach and get an equal commitment back. i'm sure that was part of the discussion with Petrino before the university fully committed to the renovations last year.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:49 pm to
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here's the original TD discussion about it, a week before Meyer announced his resignation:
A week before?

You mean when there was already sites reporting Urban was going to resign?
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:54 pm to
no, i mean a week before Meyer announced his resignation. The resignation that the Orlando Sentinel described as "surprising".

want to link to all the reliable sites that were saying in November that Meyer would resign?
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:58 pm to
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want to link to all the reliable sites that were saying in November that Meyer would resign?

There were sites saying it in early December.

Which means it likely got around to the various AD's around mid-November. I would bet feelers were already out.

Do I think Petrino was a serious candidate for the UF job? No.

But I guarantee his agent made it look like he was.
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:07 pm to
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Which means it likely got around to the various AD's around mid-November. I would bet feelers were already out.


how would you know this? why would you even think this? what's the advantage of floating it to other AD's so far in advance - so they can lock down their own coaches before Meyer actually resigned? makes no sense.

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Do I think Petrino was a serious candidate for the UF job? No.

But I guarantee his agent made it look like he was.


...except his name was popping up because of florida "insiders". you can't guarantee anything because you really know nothing about the situation.

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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:10 pm to
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how would you know this?
How would you not?

You think Meyer just sprung this on Foley?

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..except his name was popping up because of florida "insiders".
The same ones that were "shocked" by his "sudden" decision to resign?



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you can't guarantee anything because you really know nothing about the situation.

I've been around the block enough times to know how agents work.

You should know just from how many times Nutt leveraged other openings into pay raises.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 1:11 pm
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:12 pm to
look, i understand that you don't want to admit that you're wrong. but you are. the contract wasn't reactionary, it wasn't based on leverage and Petrino floating his name - it had been in the works for awhile.

i also understand Petrino's reputation. But since he's been at Arkansas, he hasn't so much as flirted with another program.
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:17 pm to
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i understand that you don't want to admit that you're wrong. but you are.


I repeat:

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But I can always count on an Arky fan to delude himself.
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:18 pm to
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How would you not?

You think Meyer just sprung this on Foley?


no, i don't think he sprung it on Foley. I also think it's extremely foolish to think Foley would let other AD's know of the eventual retirement in advance.

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The same ones that were "shocked" by his "sudden" decision to resign?


uh, what? That was media who were surprised. Of course Foley knew in advance, and I'm sure he started putting together a wishlist and preparing for contacts to be made once the announcement was completed.

i'm talking about the TD guys who, even though they don't like or want Petrino, said Foley was infatuated with him and that Petrino was in his top 3.

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I've been around the block enough times to know how agents work.

You should know just from how many times Nutt leveraged other openings into pay raises.


yeah, that's my point. the contract was basically completed before Meyer's retirement, and before Petrino's name came up in any coaching rumors. Maybe Petrino's agent did use it to get a few extra dollars, but that's a big, big difference than Nutt floating his name and then getting an extension because of the rumors.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 1:19 pm
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:22 pm to
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I repeat:


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But I can always count on an Arky fan to delude himself.


you are seriously a Bush league troll. I'm not deluded about the strength or rank or power of the Arkansas program.

It's all good though, I've come to accept this level of arrogance and trolling from LSU fans w/r/t Arkansas
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:24 pm to
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I also think it's extremely foolish to think Foley would let other AD's know of the eventual retirement in advance.
Foley would not have.

Meyer's agent would have. Needing a new client.

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uh, what? That was media who were surprised.
All of the "insiders" so far have been media personalities.

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yeah, that's my point. the contract was basically completed before Meyer's retirement
Before his press conference? Sure.

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and before Petrino's name came up in any coaching rumors.
In the media.

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Maybe Petrino's agent did use it to get a few extra dollars, but that's a big, big difference than Nutt floating his name and then getting an extension because of the rumors.
If the contract was done, how did he use it to get extra dollars?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:26 pm to
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you are seriously a Bush league troll. I'm not deluded about the strength or rank or power of the Arkansas program.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 1:28 pm
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:36 pm to
not really, man. just calling you out for the obvious. you're not making a whole lot of sense here in your argument, which happens to keep changing. real quick summary:

-me: the contract was in the works long before Meyer resigned, media even tweeted that a new K was basically done awhile before the UF job opened
-you: link
-me:[link provided]
-you: lol delusion. people knew Meyer was going to retire long before that
-me: link?
-you: (ignore link request, completely speculate about something else) yeah well ADs tell other AD's long before the coach retires!!1
-me: that makes no sense
-you: lol ur delusional
-me: you're a troll
-you: {img}big jpg{/img}


did i miss anything?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:41 pm to
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did i miss anything?
You really are mad.

You are right, though.

Petrino and his agent had no idea Meyer was going to resign. It was all so super secret. Nobody has known it was going to happen, even though he did it all last year around this time.

Everyone is "shocked". Shocked I tell you!!!

Know what else?

Petrino is so happy at Arkansas, being one of the best jobs in America, that he will not leave there EVER.

Arkansas is just that good. Facilities, fanbase, stadium, recruiting grounds, etc.

Arkansas is far too good to consider leaving for a second rate job like Florida.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 1:42 pm
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:41 pm to
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Foley would not have.

Meyer's agent would have. Needing a new client.


makes no sense at all. So coaches will leave their own agent to go to Meyer's agent because Meyer quit?

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All of the "insiders" so far have been media personalities.


and they were likely privy to Foley's wishlist after Meyer resigned. Not before. hence, surprised by the resignation, then ask around and got the list of prospective candidates.

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If the contract was done, how did he use it to get extra dollars?


the major terms were made public, the agreement in principle was made public, but the actual contract wasn't completed and signed until last night.

Wally Hall of the 1 week before Meyer resignation tweet said he read the contract. He saaid it was about 30 pages long. Do you really think that was quickly thrown together overnight, then leaked to the media, as a response to an impending retirement that wouldn't be announced for at least a week?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:43 pm to
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So coaches will leave their own agent to go to Meyer's agent because Meyer quit?

No. Meyer's agent needs a new client. Other agents would hear about that.
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and they were likely privy to Foley's wishlist after Meyer resigned.
"Miles to Michigan"

--2007

Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:46 pm to
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You really are mad.

nope.

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Petrino is so happy at Arkansas, being one of the best jobs in America, that he will not leave there EVER.

Arkansas is just that good. Facilities, fanbase, stadium, recruiting grounds, etc.

Arkansas is far too good to consider leaving for a second rate job like Florida.


that's a whole lot of made up stuff. i don't think i've seen a single arkansas fan claim any of the above except that Arkansas has great facilities and that Petrino is happy.

again: bush league troll.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:49 pm to
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Posted by Roaad
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did i miss anything?
You really are mad.

You are right, though.

Petrino and his agent had no idea Meyer was going to resign. It was all so super secret. Nobody has known it was going to happen, even though he did it all last year around this time.

Everyone is "shocked". Shocked I tell you!!!

Know what else?

Petrino is so happy at Arkansas, being one of the best jobs in America, that he will not leave there EVER.

Arkansas is just that good. Facilities, fanbase, stadium, recruiting grounds, etc.

Arkansas is far too good to consider leaving for a second rate job like Florida.




Now that's just funny as shite!
Posted by WaveHog
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:53 pm to
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No. Meyer's agent needs a new client. Other agents would hear about that.


I can't make heads or tails of this. it seriously makes no sense.

agents don't only have one client. they don't suddenly have "openings" if one quits coaching. and if anything, letting it become widely known that he "needs a new client" (???) would be foolish because it'd tip off other agents that he will try to poach their clients.
Posted by Brett425
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:03 pm to
This is a LSU board.Hog fans seem to be confused . Go to your own board! You don't see any of us on your board. GTFO! Just proof that hog fans want to be LSU so bad..

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