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Posted on 8/11/12 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 8:17 pm to
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What makes you think he will hire a great coach this time?


Obviously the stakes are alittle higher replacing petrino from replacing nutt. The guys two for two in my book and genius until proven retarded.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

What makes you think he will hire a great coach this time?


Jeff Long has grown, he's learned, and he's realized just what can be accomplished at the U. of A.

He now knows that Doe's Hoes are getting commits and to leave that catfish behind.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 10:16 pm to
AD Long made a tough decision but it was the right one. This usually works out for the best in the long run.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 10:59 pm to
Arkansas is way too good of a program to hire an unproven guy who's, what, 30? Not no, but hell no. Dowell needs at least 5 years of head coaching experience before he gets considered for a big job.
Posted by Ray Penpillage
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 11:03 pm to
He said bring back Dowell to OC. However, I don't think he'd come - even if you made him HC in waiting, which doesn't make sense unless the HC you bring in is much older than Strong. Arkansas Head Coach is Dowell's dream job though...
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 12:59 am to
Dowell is probably 10 years away at least. Who knows what will happen by then.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 4:25 am to
quote:

To err is human. To forgive is tBeacon.


Ermagerd! So much sig quote material...so little space.
Posted by DiafGtfo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 7:04 pm to
I have to admit that my faith in Long isn't enormous based on the reports we heard during our last coaching search.

I'm sure a lot of crap gets leaked to the media and to message boards, but Jim Grobe and Tommy Bowden weren't exactly exciting to me. Had we not gotten Petrino, I would have been happier getting Will Muschamp, but that's neither here nor there.

As for Anderson, I felt that Long pretty much had his decision made for him by the fans (I'm sure he has a decent pulse on what the fans want), it was just a matter of him ponying up the resources, for which I give him credit for.

Basically, he did get Bobby Petrino and Mike Anderson, for which he deserves credit, but the circumstances surrounding those hires leave something to be desired.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 7:58 pm to
So which is it? Fans bash the media for never getting shite right, yet everyone believes Grobe and Bowden were legit candidates.

Remember when Matt Turner said Tyrone Nix was the leading DC candidate? Everyone called bullsht and it was, but people still believe Long wanted to hire Grobe or Bowden and Petrino somehow 'fell in his lap.'

Long hired Petrino, end of story. I don't know why some of our fans selectively choose which horseshite rumors to believe.
Posted by DiafGtfo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:15 pm to
I did think the Tyrone Nix thing was bullshite, but Grobe actually agreed to the job (at least it seemed that way according to the national sports media since ESPN, CBS, etc. reported it. Perhaps my memory is broken) and then backed off later.

I don't know what to think about Bowden, mainly because it just kind of seemed like we were used in order to get a raise for Bowden from Clemson.

There are some things that get reported that are total crap, and other things that are true. It certainly seemed like the Grobe thing had more legs than the Tyrone Nix thing.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:20 pm to
Grobe was a smokescreen.
Posted by DiafGtfo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:51 pm to
Perhaps that was the case (I have no insider knowledge or proof either way), but it doesn't seem to add up considering how it seemed to come from his side as well.

Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but it does suck to wait.

I don't mind the JLS temporary hire as long as it is temporary, but we will see how things roll.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:03 pm to
Out of the current LeGit tier, which one do you guys think is officially removed from consideration first?

Art Briles
James Franklin
Pat Fitzgerald
Chris Petersen
John L. Smith
Charlie Strong
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:04 pm to
Chris Petersen
Posted by SLC
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:13 pm to
Chris Petersen
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:15 pm to
JLS
Posted by DiafGtfo
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:40 pm to
Chris Petersen.

He's shown no inclination to leave from Boise. Guy is obviously not an idiot. He's seen the track record of the guys who left Boise and how they've fared elsewhere. Nutt...Hawkins...etc. If he falls flat on his face at a big name school, no one is going to really remember his tenure at Boise. I think Petersen is aware of that and doesn't want to take the risk.

And honestly I don't think it's necessarily about an ability to coach (Nutt being excluded), but rather about connections and re-establishing recruiting relationships etc.

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:51 pm to
Petersen is who I'm leaning towards too.

6 front runners are too many.

I think Briles is basically out due to Baylor's new commitment to facilities. I don't think they'd pull the trigger w/o a long term commitment from Briles.

Franklin is not the guy we want after further examination.

JLS is only going to be as good as his assistants, and I see the bulk of the staff moving on regardless at season end.

Charlie Strong might actually really hate the U of Arkansas, he's got no ties that I know of.

That leaves Fitzgerald as the most likely of that bunch. I fully expect the choice to be kept under wraps until 30 minutes before the presser.
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:36 pm to
Chris Petersen and Art Briles aren't leaving for Arkansas.

NCAA coaches

realistic tier

Skip Holtz
Jim Heacock
James Franklin
Steve Sarkisian

WTF Jeff tier

Garrick McGee
Gus Malzahn
JLS
Paul Rhoads

idk anything about nfl coaches.
Posted by DiafGtfo
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Petersen is who I'm leaning towards too.

6 front runners are too many.

I think Briles is basically out due to Baylor's new commitment to facilities. I don't think they'd pull the trigger w/o a long term commitment from Briles.

Franklin is not the guy we want after further examination.

JLS is only going to be as good as his assistants, and I see the bulk of the staff moving on regardless at season end.

Charlie Strong might actually really hate the U of Arkansas, he's got no ties that I know of.

That leaves Fitzgerald as the most likely of that bunch. I fully expect the choice to be kept under wraps until 30 minutes before the presser.


AFAIK, Charlie Strong's biggest connection is that he's from Batesville and went to UCA?
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