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re: Napier’s not my first choice, but I’d take him in a heartbeat before Franklin.

Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:33 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:33 am to
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Well for one Franklin is in a tier above Napier. Secondly, would be a home run hire.

Proven winner in the SEC and at a major institution. Top notch recruiter. Clifford isn’t great but there was a 4-year period where Penn State, on average was Top 15-20 in scoring including one year they averaged 41.7 a game.

Always fields a strong defense. Only tier above him is Saban, Smart, Dabo and maybe Riley and Ryan Day.


yea that one conference title and 0 playoff appearences really does it for you huh?

outside of Joe Moorehead and having Barkley....when has Penn State had a dynamic offense since he has been there?

Franlin is accepting mediocrity, good enough to not get fired, not good enough to make the playoffs. Rather take someone with higher ceiling but lower floor than him.

#anyonebutfranklin
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1945 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:45 am to
It’s comical how some of you idiots list all of those things about Franklin and then clamor for someone as irrelevant as Napier lol. What has Napier ever done? Made ULL and good team in a worthless irrelevant conference? You can’t sit here and bash someone for not winning more championships when you’re 2nd fiddle to Ohio st. Franklin won 9 games at Vandy twice. At ducking Vanderbilt in the sec he won 9 games. He isn’t my first choice by any means but you people who have Napier anywhere near him or our top 8 selections are morons.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:46 am
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:15 am to
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It’s comical how some of you idiots list all of those things about Franklin and then clamor for someone as irrelevant as Napier lol. What has Napier ever done? Made ULL and good team in a worthless irrelevant conference? You can’t sit here and bash someone for not winning more championships when you’re 2nd fiddle to Ohio st. Franklin won 9 games at Vandy twice. At ducking Vanderbilt in the sec he won 9 games. He isn’t my first choice by any means but you people who have Napier anywhere near him or our top 8 selections are morons.


Speaking of "morons", I guarantee you these guys know a whole heck of a lot more about what is what than you do... Fast forward to the 31:14 mark

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Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1945 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:19 am to
Lol. Nobody has a clue what is happening. But it’s funny you think these puppets do. Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:21 am to
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Nobody has a clue what is happening.


; you proved yourself to be a moron
Posted by AndrettiSJ
Member since May 2019
15 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:09 am to
Trace McSorley was a pretty good college QB. And for the Fickell crowd, are we going to just act like Cincy has a high flying offense?

Also Franklin has won 11 games 3x at PSU. Won a B10 title and has been to 3 NY6 bowls. What are we talking about?
Posted by The Albatross
Member since Mar 2021
895 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:12 am to
He was fine. My gripe is that the BIG10 has been wide open for years. PSU should win 10-11 games a year even if you guarantee a loss to OSU every year. I just think Franklin isn’t capitalizing as much as he should. Just my opinion, not stating it as fact like a lot of folks on here. I don’t buy Franklin as an elite coach.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34991 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:32 am to
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Also Franklin has won 11 games 3x at PSU. Won a B10 title and has been to 3 NY6 bowls. What are we talking about?


with a shite ton of mediocrity sprinkled in and really he has never lost less than 2 games, never made the playoffs.

Before moorehead-
2014- 7-6 20.6 ppg
2015- 7-6 23.2ppg

Since moorehead left, he is

2018- 9-4 33.8 ppg
2019- 11-2 35.8 ppg
2020- 4-5- 29.8ppg
2021- currently 5-2 and staring at more losses coming up. 26.9ppg


downward trend since moorehead left

moorehead was there-
2016-11-3 37.6 ppg +84.2ypg
2017- 11-2 41.1 ppg +111.9ypg over 2015

these were huge improvements over previous years and the years since.

Franklin is mediocre as frick without moorehead. His record at PSU without moorehead is 43-25. the further away he gets from moorehead, the closer his offense returns to the mean.

Franklin at Vandy
2011- 6-7 26.7ppg
2012- 9-4 30ppg
2013- 9-4 30.1ppg

so lets see, franklin-

w/o Moorehead- 67-40 (36-35 in conference) 28.54ppg

w moorehead- 22-5 (15-3 in conference) 39.35ppg


so was it moorehead's offsense getting Pstate going or was it franklin? sure looks like Franklin is mediocre as frick without moorehead and you are seeing that more and more this year and seems the further they get from mooreheads influence the closer he gets to returning to the mean.

#ANYONEBUTFRANKLING!!!

#FRANKLIN+MEDICORITY!!!
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11124 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:03 am to
Napier has tremendous upside. Not sure Franklin does.
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