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re: Miles impressive future staff. Miles bashers where are you?

Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:27 am to
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:27 am to
I never questioned his ability to recruit andhire good coaches. I have a problem with game mgt, clock mgt, get the most out of his players, discipline and a few other things.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12988 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:29 am to
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How do these two hires actually address the poor OL play and the overall mess on offense?

Typical Tiger fans. "Its someone new. All is good now."

What about addressing your true needs?



I'm thinking the same thing.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:30 am to
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get the most out of his players


Can someone, anyone, tell me what the hell this is supposed to mean???? And while you're doing that, can you tell me how you're supposed to judge that? And if you can judge it, why isn't your fat arse on the sideline?

Do you really think he didn't get the most of Jacob Hester? Or what about Patrick Peterson? Terrance Tolliver???
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:30 am to
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I'm thinking the same thing.


Maybe you're supporting the wrong team then.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12988 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:32 am to
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Maybe you're supporting the wrong team then.


STFU and go to class.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:34 am to
I'm not a Miles basher by any stretch, but I am waiting to see how all this actually turns out before judging. If, however, Gonzales does end up as OC, I personally think Miles is putting his neck too far out on the chopping block. There is no reason to believe, at this point, that Gonzales could implement Urban's offense any better than Mallory implemented Pelini's defense. I would be more patient with a system guy if he'd done it somewhere already, vs. 1 that is starting fresh (and may be looking forward to tinkering to show off his own brilliance)

In addition, if Crowton stays, the chopping block scenario is strong as well. This year is really Miles' only chance to use Crowton as the scapegoat.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:34 am to
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So where is everyone who said no one would come coach under Miles because he is a lame duck coach?

I am actually impressed so far at the staff he has been able to put together. Here is to him filling out the rest of the staff with more good hires.

They are playing EA football which is the closest eighty percent of them ever came to being involved in organized football. SFP is at a circle jerk tellng his followers(all three of them) about his 161 IQ.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:36 am to
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STFU and go to class.


Can you say Christmas break? We have that in college, you know.

How can you possibly agree with that stupid opinion. Now filling needs? he's filled the ONLY 2 needs we have right now: 2 openings, 2 hires. I'm sorry, but you don't need a college degree to see that the opinion that we're just changing for changes sake is one of the dumbest things to be written on here for a long time.

I'm no Miles defender, but some of you people make a religion out bashing anything & everything Miles does.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 8:39 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:36 am to
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This has little to do with his actual coaching ability

Why not? Putting together a staff and running the program is a HUGE part of a head coach's responsibility. but because he's really good at it, it doesn't count? If you are unable to give credit for the things Miles does well, it makes me that much less likely to listen to you when you criticize him.

People throw out "coaching" when they really mean "game management". Which are two different things. Game management is important, and Miles is pretty bad at it, but it doesn't mean he's a bad coach. It means he's a bad game manager. He brings other skills to the job, first and foremost is his management ability.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:37 am to
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Miles impressive future staff. Miles bashers where are you?
I never questioned his ability to recruit andhire good coaches. I have a problem with game mgt, clock mgt, get the most out of his players, discipline and a few other things.

How did your coach handle these situations?
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33232 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:55 am to
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So where is everyone who said no one would come coach under Miles because he is a lame duck coach?
He can get them to "come here", but can he get them to "coach". That is the question I posted in another thread. Miles problem is not that he can't get good coaches and players to come to LSU, his problem is that he can't motivate them to perform at a higher level or up to expectations once he gets them.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:58 am to
Seriously? You're willing to forgive Miles for his last two seasons because of some wr and rb coaching changes.

I still don't think Miles is the man for the HC job. The only way he stays here is if he surounds himself with incredible coaches.

If I'm wrong, I'll admit, but I don't think I am.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 10:01 am
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:03 am to
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still don't think Miles is the man for the HC job.


I would take our season relative to its expectations over your epic failure of a season.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:06 am to
Hmmmmmm, Since I'm an LSU fan I am not sure what you are talking about.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:13 am to
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As RXd Ole Miss Fan Member since Aug 2009 3910 posts


Coulda fooled me.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:15 am to
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What about addressing your true needs?



You should do the same-

new invention called a toothbrush and toothpaste- try it sometime
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:20 am to
Well, why would I comment on it if I weren't an LSU fan. Think about it.

The Ole Miss deal is up there to hex those figs.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:20 am to
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Miles impressive future staff. Miles bashers where are you?

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So where is everyone who said no one would come coach under Miles because he is a lame duck coach?


He can get them to "come here", but can he get them to "coach". That is the question I posted in another thread. Miles problem is not that he can't get good coaches and players to come to LSU, his problem is that he can't motivate them to perform at a higher level or up to expectations once he gets them.

are you at LSU's practices?
How did your coach work with you?
Awaiting your reply!
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:23 am to
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Miles impressive future staff. Miles bashers where are you?
I never questioned his ability to recruit andhire good coaches. I have a problem with game mgt, clock mgt, get the most out of his players, discipline and a few other things.



How did your coach handle these situations?

I'm still waiting for your response.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:41 am to
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Miles impressive future staff. Miles bashers where are you?
So where is everyone who said no one would come coach under Miles because he is a lame duck coach?

I am actually impressed so far at the staff he has been able to put together. Here is to him filling out the rest of the staff with more good hires.

You are praising Miles for hires that have not proven anything at LSU yet. Saban came to LSU from Mich St. and brought barely any coaches with him (if any, I can't recall). Miles really needs help from a strong staff. This has been proven. Time will tell if these hires work out. He has not proven yet he could beat Ole Miss, Bama, or Florida the last 2 years. Miles is a good family man and a decent coach. He probably is fun to work with. Saban is an a-hole and a nightmare to work for, but is undefeated in the SEC the last 2 years in the regular season. Yet Saban loses coaches left and right. Who cares? Nothing has been proven yet as to which direction LSU's program is headed.
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