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re: Jimbo Fisher and Les Miles
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
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He loses to lesser teams every year.
name a coach that hasn't.
Les Miles, go ahead and prove me wrong !!!
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:06 pm to nvasil1
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and a bad OL
Who the frick recruits for Florida St? A blind man who lives in Montana?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:09 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Still, to really succeed his offense needs great players in the skill positions.
We have that annually in spades.
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and an NFL QB.
He has had 1 NFL QB. The other QBs he coached up so well he tricked the NFL into drafting them in the first round and they flamed out.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:34 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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but your first sentence illustrates that even his fans know Jimbo isn't Saban or Meyer.
You are just proving my point.
Its like like saying I know Jordan Spieth or whoever isn't Tiger Woods. I don't think people truly appreciate just how incredible a run Saban is on just like they didn't get it with Woods. They think because LSU has all this NFL talent they should do the same and not doing so is a "failure". Only Miami in the mid 80s-90s was close to what Bama is doing and they had 4 coaches win 5 titles. Saban has 5 by himself.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:36 pm to Tiger Ree
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He loses to lesser teams every year.
name a coach that hasn't.
Les Miles, go ahead and prove me wrong !!!
so you're argument is that Les Miles didn't lose to "lesser" teams?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:37 pm to jlnoles79
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Jimbo ain't Urban Meyer
In other words he isn't one of the 5-7 best in the history of the game? The HORROR!!!
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In other words he isn't one of the 5-7 best in the history of the game?
I don't see him pulling off at LSU what Urban has at Ohio. St. That's what I was responding to
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You are just proving my point.
Because I'm not necessarily disagreeing with it. The first thing I typed in this thread was that Jimbo would not be a bad hire. I simply pointed out that he has shown you he isn't Saban or Meyer, while with a Herman or Fuente or Fleck that little spark of optimism they could be the next household name, however small the chance, is still there.
It's the same appreciation for how great Saban and Meyer are that leads me to believe we could do much, much worse than Orgeron.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:08 pm to TheCaterpillar
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2010- 10-4
2011- 9-4
2012- 12-2 (Orange Bowl BCS victory)
2013- 14-0 (National Title with new QB)
2014- 13-1 (12-0 reg season)
2015- 10-3
Jimbo's not coaching this year? I wondered why FSU sucked. Are they still ranked? Probably not since they are 5-3 and 2-3 ACC.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:11 pm to Cs
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Urban Meyer was 4-5 in his last 9 games at Florida.
He's now in his 5th season at Ohio State and has a grand total of 5 losses since he took over the job.
I could see Jimbo mimicking this pattern if he came to LSU. Sometimes, you just need a change - and with the in state talent and resources at LSU, I think he would be set up for a lot of success.
Really, Coach O was at Ole Miss 10 years ago and then went 6-2 as the USC head coach and is 3-0 at LSU. Maybe he just needs a change also. With the in state talent and resources at LSU, I think he would be set up for a lot of success.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
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so you're argument is that Les Miles didn't lose to "lesser" teams?
Did you not read my post? That is what I said and asked you to prove me wrong. You asked what coach doesn't lose to lesser teams. I answered you and challenged you to do research and challenge me. Are you not up to the task because you know it won't happen?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:43 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:If they win out, which they easily could do, they are 10-3 again
Jimbo's not coaching this year? I wondered why FSU sucked. Are they still ranked? Probably not since they are 5-3 and 2-3 ACC.
They have a freshman QB, it happens...if Jimbo is at FSU next year, they win 11 games minimum.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:44 pm to Tiger Ree
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Really, Coach O was at Ole Miss 10 years ago and then went 6-2 as the USC head coach and is 3-0 at LSU.
Again, interim head coach of someone else's program is not even remotely close to being in charge of your own program.
They are different jobs. Period.
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With the in state talent and resources at LSU, I think he would be set up for a lot of success.
Same could be said for any coach. So why would we not prefer one that has proven to be an elite head coach over one that was historically bad in our own division?
You're absolutely blind to this situation. Its unreal. You think Herman is going to get fired by Houston and Orgeron is better than Jimbo fricking Fisher. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You're absolutely blind to this situation. Its unreal. You think Herman is going to get fired by Houston and Orgeron is better than Jimbo fricking Fisher. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Seriously man. This tiger ree guy will do ANYTHING to make O look good. Anyone who disagrees with him is a woman and idiot, iho.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:27 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They have a freshman QB, it happens...if Jimbo is at FSU next year, they win 11 games minimum.
I wouldn't bet on it
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:35 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Seriously man. This tiger ree guy will do ANYTHING to make O look good. Anyone who disagrees with him is a woman and idiot, iho.
I did not call anybody any names in this thread. I also did not even post opinion that was not preceded by a fact. I did not post one thing about Jimbo that was not a fact that anybody can't see for themselves by going to ESPN. He is 5-3, 2-3 in the ACC.
Three of his five wins this year were against Charleston Southern, USF and Wake Forest. The other two were a close win against Ole Miss and a 20-19 against a 4-4 Miami. Yeah, this guy can beat Alabama every year. To me there is a big difference between Les Miles and Jimbo Fisher.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:46 pm to Tiger Ree
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To me there is a big difference between Les Miles and Jimbo Fisher.
Me too. Jimbo knows how to coordinate an offense and coach qbs.
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I also did not even post opinion that was not preceded by a fact.
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Yeah, this guy can beat Alabama every year.
...sarcasm is not fact. They haven't even played head to head. So you really don't know for sure.
Eta so les proved he couldn't do it 4 years in a row, but the guy who hasn't had a shot can't do it either? I don't understand.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:56 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Eta so les proved he couldn't do it 4 years in a row, but the guy who hasn't had a shot can't do it either? I don't understand.
Don't worry about it. Since Jimbo is 5-3, 2-3 ACC you won't need to even think about it for a couple, few years if then.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:13 pm to Tiger Ree
I'm more focused on O Saturday. Will tell us a lot about how good this team is under him. I expect it to be a good high energy game.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:36 pm to Laman1978
He is Les Miles junior.
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