I can't believe you are stupid enough to start another thread like this.

First of all a-hole, wait until after signing day before you are emphatic about Crowton staying. I am not saying he is gone, but you never know. Second, did you ever think that maybe just maybe it would be worse for JJ to learn a new system after he is starting to grasp this system. Third, well I don't have time to continue to point out the flaws in your post. Stay off this board Jerk.

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Posted by BamaMike

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Member since Dec 2008

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:58 pm to MemphisJerk

The guy can't tell time or manage his timeouts. And you're just now surprised at his stupidity?

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Posted by drizztiger

Deal With it!

Member since Mar 2007

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:14 pm to SS4LSU

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did you ever think that maybe just maybe it would be worse for JJ to learn a new system after he is starting to grasp this system

Crowton doesn't even grasp Crowton's system.

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Posted by moneyg

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:18 pm to BamaMike

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The guy can't tell time or manage his timeouts. And you're just now surprised at his stupidity?

Grow up man.

Is your life really that pathetic that you have to flame an LSU coaching changes message board?

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Posted by meho

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Member since Jan 2007

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:45 pm to MemphisJerk

Miles is keeping crowton because

1. If the offense sucks again, Gary will take most of the heat for it and then miles will fire him. Then that will take the heat off Les and he gets a pass.

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Posted by MemphisJerk

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Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:50 pm to SS4LSU

Yeah you're right, Miles is a genius.

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Posted by Smoke Green

Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China

Member since Apr 2005

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:55 pm to Tiger_n_ATL

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let's review:

yeah, let's review some of the sh!te you and your horde typcially fail at mentioning...you know, like all the hires/retainees? not just the ones you want to cream in your panties about.

and don't give me no lip about the first two...he could have ditched their asses to the street.

Fisher - kept by Miles;now a HC

Searls - kept by Miles; stayed two season afterwards;went home.

Dunbar - d-line/asst. HC; stayed 1 season, and moved to the show.

Monken - WR/passing game Co.; stayed two seasons, went to the show.

Porter - great recruiter; now a HC.

Pelini - now a HC.

Henson - TE/Recruiting Co.; good recruiter, went to Mizzou to coach OL.

Peveto - good, not great original hire; fail as co-DC;now a HC.

Mallory - good original hire;good position coach; fail as co-DC;now a DC.

Frank Wilson - supposedly a good recruiter;seems like a good hire, on the surface. we'll see.

Gonzo - see Wilson above.

excluding Wilson and Gonzo, all but Dunbar stayed Miles' first two seasons. LSU went 22-4, an SEC West title, and a pair of top-5's.

agains excluding Wilson/Gonzo, all but Dunbar, Monken, Fisher & Searls stayed for 3 yrs. and were part of the NC 12-2 team of '07.

Lane, '06 - bad hire;he didn't recruit well and development was crap on the DL.

Studs - good '07, average or so '08, bad '09.

Crowton - good '07, not so good '08, bad '09.

D. J. - good recruter, but horrible position coach.

Chavis - good hire.

Cooper - great hire.

Brick - i don't know.

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Posted by Smoke Green

Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China

Member since Apr 2005

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:00 pm to Tiger_n_ATL

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trying to Band-Aid the horrible Crowton situation by making Gonzales some kind of honorary co-OC (passing coordinator), which we know by history is a fail.

Todd Monken calls bullsh!te.

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Posted by tigerbill002

Member since May 2008

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:23 pm to MemphisJerk

Some perspective on Crowton.....

LSU had one of the Best Offenses in LSU History in 2007 with Crowton as the OC.

LSU had one of the Worst offenses in "recent" history with Crowton as the OC in 2009.

So what changed for Crowton. Everyone wants him gone, including myself at times. But, he's shown he can be extremely successful given the right situation. Has anyone figured out what sort of scenario needs to be in place for Crowton to have success, because he's proven he can be both good and bad.

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Posted by drizztiger

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Member since Mar 2007

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Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:32 pm to tigerbill002

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Has anyone figured out what sort of scenario needs to be in place for Crowton to have success

Yes. He needs to be in his first year at a program.

2001 BYU - 618 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2002 BYU - 272 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
2003 BYU - 196 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year.
2004 BYU - 267 Points scored in 11 games. Crowton's 4th year.
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2005 BYU - 396 Points scored in 12 games. 1st year w/o Crowton.
2006 BYU - 478 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton.

2005 Oregon - 414 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2006 Oregon - 383 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
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2007 Oregon - 496 Points scored in 13 games. 1st year w/o Crowton.
2008 Oregon - 545 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton.

2007 LSU - 541 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2008 LSU - 402 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
2009 LSU - 306 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year.
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