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re: how much did Miles consider the Arkansas job?

Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:05 am to
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:05 am to
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Winning the B1G three times in a row with the comparative recruiting disadvantages that Wisconsin has is huge.

Arky fans are the kings of coming up with some "disadvantage" to propel themselves or their guy into the top echelon of whatever the discussion is, regardless of results. I consider them the affirmative action babies of the little 8.

Miles has a national championship ring and a 2nd title game appearance, Bilema has three losses in the rose bowl. There is no comparison, except for that which takes place in the feeble minds of hog fans.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:09 am to
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Long played LSU like a fiddle


Long didnt do shite. This was all Miles agent's doing.

Ark never had a chance with Miles, they knew it and Miles was never leaving. All you had was some informal discussion that the Miles camp made money from.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:12 am to
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Miles has a national championship ring and a 2nd title game appearance, Bilema has three losses in the rose bowl. There is no comparison, except for that which takes place in the feeble minds of hog fans.


and how many years of head coaching experience do either of them have? what's the age difference? etc etc etc

this is an idiotic discussion from both sides at this point.

you and i both know as much as the paint on my wall of how well bb will do as the head coach of the hogs.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:19 am to
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you and i both know as much as the paint on my wall of how well bb will do as the head coach of the hogs.

and yet hog fans continue to claim BB as the superior coach to miles, even though miles is more accomplished. its cute, really.

Posted by Chaplain
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:22 am to
I love these piggy fans applying BB's success at Wisconsin to automatic success at Arky...this is gonna be epic to watch when they meltdown and start hating BB after year 2. I mean...Arky could have won the Big 10 this year...what does that say about the Big 10?
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:25 am to
Another thing Hog fans gloss over when bringing up the 3 rose bowls are
a) the state of the B1G during that time frame
and
b) the QB situation at Wisky during that time frame.

Wisky had a senior QB, then Russell Wilson, and once those two left they had an 8-5 season. Lets perhaps NOT brag about the rose bowl when it comes with 5 losses.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:26 am to
miles is a good coach and more accomplished, but we'll see who's the better coach on down the road. for all we know malzahn might turn out to be better than saban.

i don't think it's really fair to compare the two (bb and miles) at this point- it's like comparing miles when he was at osu to miles at lsu.


Posted by Hog Springs
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:30 am to
They lost 5 games by a combined 19 points.

He was 1 hailmary away from playing for the championship last year.

Dudes LEGIT
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:34 am to
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They lost 5 games by a combined 19 points.


Les took a team undefeated in regulation in the regular season - twice.
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He was 1 hailmary away from playing for the championship last year.

Les' team was IN the championship (allegedly)
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Dudes LEGIT

not as LEGIT as miles at this point
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:54 am to
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Arky fans are the kings of coming up with some "disadvantage" to propel themselves or their guy into the top echelon of whatever the discussion is, regardless of results. I consider them the affirmative action babies of the little 8.


So wins are wins, losses are losses. Who cares about anyone's resources inherent in their position, then?

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Miles has a national championship ring and a 2nd title game appearance, Bilema has three losses in the rose bowl. There is no comparison, except for that which takes place in the feeble minds of hog fans.



Larry Kehres has head coaching record of 331-24. He has 10 division 3 championships. 9x D3 coach of the year. There's no comparison. Kehres is a much better head coach then Les Miles.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:58 am to
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not as LEGIT as miles at this point


Obviously not.

But his resume is more impressive than Miles' was when he was hired at LSU.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:36 pm to
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We got a guy with a better resume


Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:37 pm to
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But his resume is more impressive than Miles' was when he was hired at LSU.

Miles basically created the program at OSU, Alvarez created the program at Wisky for BB. BB has essentially rode coattails (you know, the thing dumbasses love to claim miles did)

ya'll keep it up. really helping your case
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:44 pm to
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Larry Kehres has head coaching record of 331-24. He has 10 division 3 championships. 9x D3 coach of the year. There's no comparison. Kehres is a much better head coach then Les Miles

trying to compare a pair of BCS schools to a BCS school vs D3 school

keep grasping at those straws. not our fault you guys got turned down by choices 1 -6
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:49 pm to
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Miles basically created the program at OSU, Alvarez created the program at Wisky for BB. BB has essentially rode coattails (you know, the thing dumbasses love to claim miles did)


Woah, woah, woah. Now whose making excuses? I thought wins were wins and losses were losses? Are you telling me there are extenuating circumstances that make every job unique? Holy shite!
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:51 pm to
PAWPOW!!!
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:53 pm to
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trying to compare a pair of BCS schools to a BCS school vs D3 school



I'm pointing out the lunacy of your comment. Miles has done great. No one's disputing that (other than countless LSU fans 2 years ago). You're saying that Miles is better because of his resume. His resume that he built at LSU. LSU is a substantially better job than Wisconsin and you know it. Geography alone makes it 100000x's easier to recruit there as long as your coach isn't a moron.

Basically, don't be a simpleton. You're pounding your chest because you're the NY Yankees whereas Bielema's managed to go to the playoffs with the KC Royals. Resources. Coaches are limited by resources and their own abilities. If you, truly, feel Bielema's resources at Wisconsin are comparable to Miles' at LSU...well, I'd say good luck working the drive thru.
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:57 pm to
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keep grasping at those straws. not our fault you guys got turned down by choices 1 -6



There you guys go with your delusions.


You can't name 3 candidates that had substantiated offers. The only information out there was rumor and internet/twitter bullshite flamed by morose media fanning flames to get hits and page views.

You guys flipped your shite on even the remote possibility of Les leaving for Arkansas, because deep down you know LM actually would leave for Arkansas, Alabama, Michigan, Florida, Tennessee, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Miami, FSU, Eastern Michigan, Dayton, Ball St., Indiana St., WI-Whitewater, Mt. Union, etc. you get the point. Les honestly, really doesn't like you guys that much. Just happens LSU is the one dumb enough to pay him the most.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:58 pm to
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We got a guy with a better resume


Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:00 pm to
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I'm pointing out the lunacy of your comment

The lunacy in this thread comes from Arky fans thinking BB is a better or more accomplished coach than Les. period.

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