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re: Here we go again?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:51 am to Books
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:51 am to Books
quote:
credible angles on this seem to have backed down or back tracked completely on their initial reports, so I disagree. Then all your left w/ is random posters on message boards which is pretty much worthless.
Shea didn't back down. I'm still trying to get word from him today, but he said his sources are "usually" very accurate.
The only "credible" angles that backed down were Sports 2 and the Advocate, who quoted Crowton... which, again I still say, why the hell would he say, "Yeah, I'm done here?"
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:51 am to Books
it's a matter of opinion and alot of people won't be impressed.
But the point is, you're not coming in here and saying just because he sucked at Louisville, he's going to suck for the rest of his career.
fwiw, I think the reason they got better is because Tulsa hired Todd Graham who I think is a great coach. A step up from Kragthorpe. Of course, that's not saying Kragthorpe is god awful.
But the point is, you're not coming in here and saying just because he sucked at Louisville, he's going to suck for the rest of his career.
fwiw, I think the reason they got better is because Tulsa hired Todd Graham who I think is a great coach. A step up from Kragthorpe. Of course, that's not saying Kragthorpe is god awful.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:53 am to Books
it was a reach. I just don't think Kragthorpe is the dog shite people portray him to be.
I think Steve Logan would be MUCH better.
But I don't think Kragthorpe would be a shitty hire. He's a pretty respected guy in coaching circles from what I've read.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:54 am to Prominentwon
I'm saying I want a great OC, and think Kragthorpe is nowhere near that.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:55 am to OBUDan
I think it'd be maaaybe Chavis level hire on offense at best, and I don't think that's good enough. Miles needs at least one great coordinator to win big, w/o it you have the last two years.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:56 am to Books
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I'm saying I want a great OC, and think Kragthorpe is nowhere near that.
I understand that, but considering the timing, it's slim pickings and the odds of getting a great OC is slim.
Like I said though, it's all a matter of opinion. I don't think he's great and the savior, but I don't think he's a terrible choice. I think he'd be successful.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:57 am to Prominentwon
w/ the money LSU pays assistants, program resources, talent, etc, there's no excuse for settling.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:00 am to Books
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing what Gonzales would be able to do. But that's just me.
Other than Logan, who's the great OC that is out that would just up and leave their current positions? I'm sure there's ALOT more to hiring someone than just saying "hey, here's some money. Come coach at LSU"
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:01 am to Books
and you can't just write off how bad his offenses were at L'ville. Weis still had ND near the top in the nation on offense.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:02 am to Books
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Weis still had ND near the top in the nation on offense.
2007 - 118th in total o
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 11:03 am
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:02 am to Books
I think alot of his guys quit on him. That's just me.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:02 am to Prominentwon
quote:haven't done a lot of research since it appears the Wizard is staying, but Logan is up there and available.
Other than Logan, who's the great OC that is out that would just up and leave their current positions?
quote:that's a big part of it, happens every year.
I'm sure there's ALOT more to hiring someone than just saying "hey, here's some money. Come coach at LSU"
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:09 am to Books
In regards to the first post, wasn't GatorCountry one of the first to provide the Gonzales to LSU story? I know that came from the Florida side before LSU's side.
Miles is so mum on everything, it's painful.
Miles is so mum on everything, it's painful.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:10 am to OBUDan
quote:kinda did
Shea didn't back down
quote:then what are we left w/ as far as claiming he's gone?
The only "credible" angles that backed down were Sports 2 and the Advocate, who quoted Crowton... which, again I still say, why the hell would he say, "Yeah, I'm done here?"
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:10 am to Books
Looking at it...
2007:
Louisville - 6th in Total O
Notre Dame - 118th in Total O
2008:
Louisville - 45th in Total O
Notre Dame - 65th in Total O
2009:
Louisville - 91st in Total O
Notre Dame - 8th in Total O
2007:
Louisville - 6th in Total O
Notre Dame - 118th in Total O
2008:
Louisville - 45th in Total O
Notre Dame - 65th in Total O
2009:
Louisville - 91st in Total O
Notre Dame - 8th in Total O
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:11 am to OldIowaTiger
quote:this is completely different
In regards to the first post, wasn't GatorCountry one of the first to provide the Gonzales to LSU story? I know that came from the Florida side before LSU's side.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:12 am to Books
quote:recant, disclaim, whatever you want to call it then...
Shea didn't back down
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:17 am to Books
quote:
this is completely different
I realize this one has nothing to do with Florida but my point is two-fold. the Florida site has posted credible stuff in recent days in relation to coaching changes but more importantly, it's a reminder that other places reported the Gonzales information and then LSU sites/sources found out about it.
That's what I wonder about all of this smoke even while the Advocate and the LSU side claims they know nothing about a change.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:18 am to OldIowaTiger
FWIW, my UF friend said that site has a reputation of "breaking stories" but also a reputation for throwing any and everything out there in hopes that they stick.
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