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re: Gundy ahead of Fedora **ETA Herman update**

Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:02 pm to
He won the acc and made the CFP last year
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:03 pm to
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But honestly, the last two years of Jimbo have been the same thing as Les, but in Tally. Mega talent losing when they shouldn't.



isnt he playing a freshmen qb?

minus bama, you tell any fanbase their starting qb is a freshmen and they wont have the highest hopes for the season.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:03 pm to
We aren't going to pay Gundy 7M

The point is that LSU can afford that type of money, and it can be replicated into national championships

There is no reason to settle
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:03 pm to
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So O would require a top tier OC?


Seriously, every coach would/should. Look at coaches that try and play the "offensive/defensive" genius role. They tend to implode.

Every coach in America should and does want to hire the best available staff. I don't see how this is in any way a valid concern.

If we hired Jimbo, I would hope he'd want to hire a legit OC and DC.

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How do you not see the irony?


The irony of what? I've never said Jimbo wasn't a fit...

Posted by DBU
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:03 pm to
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But honestly, the last two years of Jimbo have been the same thing as Les, but in Tally. Mega talent losing when they shouldn't.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:03 pm to
A freshman qb who is on pace to have a better year than Mett had in his senior year at LSU
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:04 pm to
You said you didn't want Fisher for a multitude of reasons

If you really think he is similar to Les then please read this thread I'm about to post

LINK
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:05 pm
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:04 pm to
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College football is so centered around recruiting and our state is set up perfectly for basically anyone to come in and recruit better than most teams in the country. Jimbo is a top recruiter and would clean house in LA.


That's a glowing endorsement for Ogeron.
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:05 pm to
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I don't see what O brings to the table besides meaningless intangibles people keep throwing out there. He loves the school....great so did Les.


I mean, full function, I think he's a better version of Les.

Les got so risk averse he drove the offense into the ground. If he had let go and hired a guy like Lincoln Riley, like Bob Stoops did, LSU would probably be the team going to the playoff last year.

Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:06 pm to
The point is that we don't need a cultural fit to succeed in recruiting LA

None of the kids we want are coonasses anyways
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:06 pm to
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LSU has always been a QB developer away from a championship. Jimbo is a known QB developer.

Hmm....



I do think it's wrong to assume that LSU getting more out of QB will suddenly assure they are better.

Jimbo's teams get much more from the QB and still lose games they shouldn't. There might be trade off in other areas...
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:07 pm to
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We aren't going to pay Gundy 7M The point is that LSU can afford that type of money, and it can be replicated into national championships There is no reason to settle


So if our 3rd choice is not worth that much, at what point are we not settling?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:07 pm to
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He won the acc and made the CFP last year



We talking about Dabo now?
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:08 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:07 pm to
The trade off is defense

Jimbo lost a top DC in Pruitt

He's be inheriting Aranda
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:08 pm to
Apologies, I meant he year after Winston won it all, as that tends to be the argument around here
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:09 pm
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:08 pm to
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Jimbo lost a top DC in Pruitt


And the question is why. It wasn't money, like so many people wanna say. They just paid their shitty DC what Pruitt got from UGA...

And besides, since when are we giving breaks for losing a good coach and not replacing him? He hired a shitty replacement and doubled-down on him.

Imagine Les, in 2009, saying, "Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and Give Malleveto a big raise. Happy with the work they've done." That's what Jimbo did...

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He's be inheriting Aranda



I'd hope so, but I don't think that's a slam dunk either.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:09 pm to
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That's a glowing endorsement for Ogeron.



No, thats a glowing endorsement for a guy with a much better coaching resume.

The recruiting is there already, which is coach O's only 'advantage'. The easy recruiting in LA makes the job harder to get for O
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:09 pm to
There is an answer. FSU matched, but Pruitt has undisclosed reasons for leaving.

Pretty well known he had issues with keeping his pants zipped up
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:10 pm to
Jesus dude. You are leaning on a lot of what ifs with Jimbo and any other coach but seem to be so sure of Orgeron, even though we've no idea who this top OC would be

You can't have your cake and eat it too
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:10 pm to
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If you really think he is similar to Les then please read this thread I'm about to post

LINK



I wrote in that thread yesterday...
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