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re: Frank Wilson to McNeese

Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:02 am to
Posted by classicgold
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:02 am to
Happy for Frank. Everyone shat on me when I said he didn’t want to go from HC back down to a recruiting coordinator again.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:16 am to
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Happy for Frank. Everyone shat on me when I said he didn’t want to go from HC back down to a recruiting coordinator again


This is my problem with the argument that there aren't enough black head coaches.

Instead of going somewhere and building a resume as an offensive coordinator, he goes from RB coach to Head Coach, fails, and then his options are low tier (no offense to McNeese) HC or RB coach.If he fails at McNeese, hell be a RB Coach the rest of his career.

For there to be more black head coaches, there have to be more black coordinators. For there to be more black coordinators, they have to pay their dues in shitty situations and turn down jobs making $300k to be the guy that talks black kids into coming to a Powerhouse (Frank, Trooper Taylor, etc).

This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:42 am to
well frick
Posted by McTailGator
Houston
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:44 pm to
As I said, O taken care of his twin boys at McNeese.

Plus, pretty sure Wilson just wants to be a HC.

Ed taken care of him too.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:57 pm to
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For there to be more black coordinators, they have to pay their dues in shitty situations and turn down jobs making $300k to be the guy that talks black kids into coming to a Powerhouse (Frank, Trooper Taylor, etc).


That's difficult to turn down when you are coming from a situation where you don't have any familial money as is the case with most Black folks.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:15 pm to
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you don't have any familial money as is the case with most Black folks.



Hunh? White head coaches don't come from the loins of Captains of Industry........ Idiot.

Look at Coach O.

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Hunh? White head coaches don't come from the loins of Captains of Industry........ Idiot.

Look at Coach O.


No, you're the damn idiot. You don't know shite. Coach O's father worked for the phone company. Most Black children are raised in single parent homes. There is no damn daddy. Furthermore, working for the phone company in a low cost of living state like Louisiana can give one a middle class lifestyle and I know plenty of guys who work for Entergy doing just that. So, the circumstances Coach O grew up in are vastly different from the circumstances many Black coaches grew up in like Randy Shannon. No father in the home, one sibling died from AIDS, his brother stole Randy's identity, etc. But, keep believing the bullshite.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:33 pm to
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No, you're the damn idiot. You don't know shite. Coach O's father worked for the phone company. Most Black children are raised in single parent homes. There is no damn daddy. Furthermore, working for the phone company in a low cost of living state like Louisiana can give one a middle class lifestyle and I know plenty of guys who work for Entergy doing just that. So, the circumstances Coach O grew up in are vastly different from the circumstances many Black coaches grew up in like Randy Shannon. No father in the home, one sibling died from AIDS, his brother stole Randy's identity, etc. But, keep believing the bull shite


All of that is legit, but it doesn't entitle them or anyone else to be the head football coach at a P5 school or NFL franchise anymore than it entitles them to be the CEO at Walmart or GM.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:42 pm to
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All of that is legit, but it doesn't entitle them or anyone else to be the head football coach at a P5 school or NFL franchise anymore than it entitles them to be the CEO at Walmart or GM.


Did I say that? No. I'm simply saying this is why you see many Black coaches stick it out as position coaches and recruiting coordinators rather than take the salary cut to become a coordinator at a lesser school and work themselves up the career ladder. Most Black coaches aren't able to get the opportunity Josh Gattis got to go from a WR coach to OC at a place like Michigan.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Did I say that? No. I'm simply saying this is why you see many Black coaches stick it out as position coaches and recruiting coordinators rather than take the salary cut to become a coordinator at a lesser school and work themselves up the career ladder. Most Black coaches aren't able to get the opportunity Josh Gattis got to go from a WR coach to OC at a place like Michigan.


Explain that to ESPN and the rests of media so we don't have to hear the same stories every year.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Explain that to ESPN and the rests of media so we don't have to hear the same stories every year.


Man, frick ESPN. I'm Black but I'm no damn liberal or Democrat. I'm just telling you why I believe that many Black guys aren't taking a cut in salary to get on the coordinator to head coach career track.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:17 pm to
Somebody brought up the example of Gattis at Michigan, and I think that's a good one. He moved around and took on more and more offensive responsibility at every stop. When the opportunity at Michigan came along, he was ready.

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