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Define what a "great" coach is

Posted on 11/25/07 at 1:59 am
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7724 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 1:59 am
All too often on here whenever somebody brings up Spurrier, or Ferentz, or whomever and mentions their mediocre records of late, another poster instantly says "Dude, it's Iowa/SC, they have no talent, what do you expect?" But wouldn't one of the marks of being a great coach the ability to close the talent gap with other teams through playcalling and gameplanning?

Take Spurrier. His success came at a time when he had a completely different offense than the rest of the league, and better atheletes across the board. It was innovative and fresh and he dominated with it. Once the rest of the teams caught on and adapted, the dominance was gone. And obviously without superior talent he can't get anything done at SC.

My point is, shouldn't we look for coaches who have inferior talent and yet find a way to make their teams competitive without that advantage. That way when they come to a school like LSU the advantage instantly becomes theirs with the talent upgrade.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56829 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:19 am to
Coach Bryant, that pretty much sums it up!!
Posted by lsulee
central
Member since Sep 2006
361 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:57 am to
quote:

Coach Bryant, that pretty much sums it up!!

yeah...pretty much.......
Posted by Boy_of_wonder75
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2005
569 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:46 am to
Look no further than Jeff Jagodzinski of Boston College (or at least add him to your list).
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4943 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:47 am to
quote:

Coach Bryant, that pretty much sums it up!!


yeah, if cheating is a pre-req for being a great coach, that does pretty much sum it up...
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13578 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:58 am to
quote:

Coach Bryant, that pretty much sums it up!!


I knew someone from Bama couldn't resist to put that one up.
Posted by LSUfan007700
Democratic Party
Member since Sep 2007
2528 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 9:21 am to
Wins wether he should or shouldn't. Wins when he has talent, and when he doesnt.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5203 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 9:28 am to
a discipline football team is a great way to start!
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11609 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 10:09 am to
quote:

another poster instantly says "Dude, it's Iowa/SC, they have no talent, what do you expect?"


Jeez, are people that young that they don't remember Hayden Fry at Iowa? Iowa was a powerhouse in The Big 10. Ferentz has barely come close to what Fry did. Spurrier was enticed to take the SC job because of tee times at Augusta Nat'l, so where's his real priorities? Ferentz might do better with more, but he's not living up to what was at Iowa. And Spurrier's collecting a check to play golf, with an SC fan base that seems satified with 6-5, 7-4 at best.
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